Christopher, "Can't be" is an impossible statement. I can tell you with 100% certainty that Apple is indeed working on a new Apple TV and they probably were working on it before the 4th Generation Apple TV was even released just as they have teams which are probably already working on the 2018 iPhone. In large corporations like that where so much is at stake it is not like they say "OK, now the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus are released, let's all take a few weeks off and then we'll start brain storming what we should do next year". However, whether a new Apple TV will be released next year or in 2018 is anybody's guess and just because the rumourmill in cyberspace hasn't started cranking out guesses as to what it will be doesn't mean there won't be one. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the current model is capable of 4K streaming and just as certain as I know they are working on a new version I can tell you that said new version will support 4K, a lot of people were disappointed that the 4th Gen didn't since the iPhones which were released at the same time (the 6S and 6S Plus) can record video in 4K. I think this was very much a marketing decision by Apple, the current version could have easily been capable of streaming 4K content, but Apple probably thought after not having released a new Apple TV for so long and with the new app store, the new TVOS and SIRI they could get away with it and benefit from a few million people who have bought the 4th Generation Apple TV also buying the 5th Generation when it comes out with 4K support. I know you are quite an Apple fan boy and I am somewhat guilty of that myself at least when it comes to iPhones, the Apple TV and, recently, my new Apple Watch series 2, but I still look at the larger picture and that picture tells me that Apple is no different when it comes to making profits, they are just as greedy as everybody else and have no scruples to squeeze the consumer for as many Dollars, Pounds, Euros or whatever other currency as possible while at the same time trying to avoid paying taxes as much as possible. In fact I would go as far as to say that some other companies and current or former CEO's such as Bill Gates are a lot more philanthropic as Steve Jobbs ever was.
Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 12:16 PM To: Viphone <[email protected]> Subject: Re: purpose of apple tv Can't be. I've not seen anything to support Apple working on a new Apple TV. I do use blogs like IDB, but totally rely on Apple's words in order to believe it. Until then, I believe it when i see it. > On 4 Nov 2016, at 09:43, billy inglis <[email protected]> wrote: > > hi Sieghard and all, I have been told a new apple tv will be on the > market next year sometime. Is this right?, Billy > > On 04/11/2016 08:33, Fanus wrote: >> Hello Kliphton and Sieghard >> Thank you very much for the explanation. This is very interesting. I shall >> investigate what is available in South Africa. >> Regards >> Fanus >> >> >> From: Kliphton Miller >> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 11:59 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: purpose of apple tv >> >> Well, it does more than stream music an movies. You can log in to most >> channels offered buy a service provider like time warner, comcast, or >> direct. Of course you must pay for these subscriptions, or get someone to >> share there info with you. The appleTV also has some games to be played on >> it. My favorite app is infuse, this allows me to stream my entire movie >> collection to my appleTV4 without using iTunes, or having to leave my mac on >> for Plex or some other third party. And the best part about it, I don’t >> have to convert my movie files in to mp4, they can be any format and infuse >> will stream them. The most important thing for most of us, is we don’t need >> sited help to control the appleTV, voiceover reads everything on the screen >> so we can control HBO, netflix, Hulu, or whatever service you are using, >> including the network TV apps at that have on demand content. >> >> On Nov 3, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Fanus <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hello Sieghard and list >> Please pardon my stupid question but can anyone in a few sentences explain >> the purpose of the apple tv. Is it only for downloading and playing music >> and movies on the tv or can one control the tv set to a certain extent i.e. >> can one hear the menu and shedule normal tv programs etc.? >> I am not a movie fan so I ask this question on behalf of a blind friend who >> wants to access the tv. >> Regards >> Fanus >> >> >> From: Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2016 5:54 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Loving Apple tv, have more questions >> >> Keep in mind that you can dictate anywhere including spelling passwords and >> user names. Also, if you have a bluetooth keyboard you can pair it for >> easier typing and in fact you can pretty much control the Apple TV >> completely with a bluetooth keyboard. Only thing I can't remember now is if >> there is a way to invoke SIRI with a bluetooth keyboard. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Terri Stimmel >> Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 9:58 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Loving Apple tv, have more questions >> >> Hello to Daniel and all who have helped me with my Apple tv, so far. I >> really appreciate it. >> >> >> I really dislike saying this, because I was so hesetant to purchase it. >> But I absolutely love it! I think it's awesome! >> >> >> My friend helped me set it up, because I didn't see the message in >> time, telling me how to start voiceover. But once we got voiceover >> on, I took it over. >> >> I actually like the little gesture area. I thought it would be very >> difficult to use. But not at all. And I like how you press the little >> clicker thing at the end. Ok, surely not the propper name for it. LOL! >> >> The keyboard is still a bit confusing to me. But overall I like the >> new set up so far. I find it faster to choose letters, and such. >> >> >> Also, one feature I really loved, was how easy it was to set it up, >> and connect to my network. I liked how I unlocked my phone, and held >> it near the tv. That was too cool how it used the bluetooth. The set >> up was flawless. >> >> >> I haven't done much with it, beyond that. Mainly, because I am not >> sure what to do. >> >> >> How do I get my apps like, CBS, Hulu, and Netflix on there? >> >> Even if they are on my Ipad, and I have subscriptions, do I have to >> download them on to the Apple TV? >> >> I couldn't find an area where I could see all my apps. But maybe I >> don't know where to look. >> >> >> Also, if I want other free or subscription-based apps for movies, or >> tv shows, how do I go about finding such stuff? >> >> Unfortunately, I don't know many apps, and I honestly don't know how >> to search for such things. >> >> I'd like to find apps that are pretty accessible. But I'd try some >> apps just to check them out as well, if I knew how to find them. >> >> >> Also, how do you know which news apps give broadcasts of stories, >> and not just articles? >> >> I know NPR has a news app. >> >> >> Any help with any of this would be much appreciated. I'm going to >> mess around with the Apple tv more, tomorrow. I am definitely happy >> I bought it. I can't believe now that I was so intimidated by it. >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> Terri >> >> >> On 11/2/2016 9:42 AM, Daniel L. Gervais wrote: >> > Hi Terri, >> > >> > I think you will enjoy your new Apple TV, I know I bought the exact same >> one and I love it. >> > >> > As for the remote, below the gesture area, from the top left going down, >> you have the Menu, Siri and Play/Pause buttons. From the top right going >> down, you have the Home button and below that is the Volume Up and Down >> rocker. >> > >> > To enable VoiceOver, simply press the Play/Pause button three times and >> after a few tries, VoiceOver should begin speaking. >> > >> > When inputting text, the keyboard is layed out a little diffrently with >> the first row being the letters A to Z and the next row below being the >> numbers and punctuation symbols. Below that row is buttons to toggle >> between lowercase and uppercase letters, but if you press the Play/Pause >> button, this will do the same. >> > >> > You can also use Siri to dictate anything in an edit field, this also >> includes passwords. Simply press and hold the Siri button and dictate. >> When you're done, let go of the button and your text will be inputted. >> > >> > While on the Home screen, you can even ask Siri, by pressing and holding >> while you talk and letting go when your done. >> > >> > You can always check on www.applevis.com for How To's on using the Apple >> TV. I believe that David Woodbridge has quite a few podcasts on doing just >> about anything on the Apple TV. >> > >> > Hope this helps! >> > >> > >> > From: Terri Stimmel <[email protected]> > To: >> "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Date: >> 2016/11/02 10:12 AM > Subject: Got my new Apple TV, need a bit of >> help! >> > >> > Hello everyone, >> > >> > >> > Well, I broke down and purchased my new Apple tv last night. I got >> the > 32 gig model. I didn't mess with it last night though, because >> I just > wasn't feeling the best. >> > >> > >> > It's all open, and all hooked up now. It is a little chunkier, and >> > bigger. But I think I like that. I do like the remote much better, >> > because it too seems thicker, and maybe not as easy to lose. I lost >> one > once. LOL! >> > >> > >> > Now here is where I need some help please. >> > >> > When I go to the input where the Apple tv is, nothing seems to happen. >> > On my older model, it asked about Voiceover. >> > >> > >> > So first of all, can someone kindly explain the layout of the >> buttons to > me, and what they are? >> > >> > This would really be very helpful. I found the area for the gestures. >> > >> > >> > Now how can I get voiceover on? >> > >> > Will I need sighted assistence for this? >> > >> > I pushed a couple of buttons just to see what would happen. I >> don't know > if anything happened on the screen. But I heard some cute >> little noises. >> > LOL! >> > >> > I decided to quit messing with it though, because I didn't want to >> mess > anything up. >> > >> > >> > Any help would be very much appreciated. Now I am kind of getting >> > excited about this thing. 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