I was under the impression that any sort of braille accessibility was also part 
of Voiceover which means Voiceover has to run in order for braille to work. If 
you don't need the speech part of Voiceover you can mute speech with a 3-finger 
double tap, this way you get all the benefits of Voiceover and braille without 
the phone actually speaking.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Todd Patkus
Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2016 11:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iMessage bug

Lynnette et al,

If one turns the VO off, how can a deafblind who is a strong Braille user know 
what is going on while he does what you did?  How can he know what the display 
show?

I am sure Rich will tell y'all something.

Todd

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lynette frison
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iMessage bug

Hey all,

Since updating to iOS 10.1.1, the messaging apps feature in iMessage doesn't 
work like it's supposed to. The only way to cycle between iMessage apps or 
stickers is to turn VO off and swipe left with one finger. I have quite a few 
sticker packs and apps that I use, so this is very tedious. Has anyone else 
noticed this?

Lynette


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