Helga Schreiber Group Moderator for the IPad help for the blind ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. Phone: (561) 706-5950 Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com Skype: helga.schreiber26 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx INT Website: http://int4life.com/ "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Sent from my iPhone 7 running IOS 10.1 > On Nov 18, 2016, at 4:57 PM, Todd Patkus <tpte...@gmail.com> wrote: > > John, > > It is so easy for you to say what you said below. > > The statement I made stands to be correct. > > Yes, Apple Inc. fails to do more thorough diagnoses on their updates! I am > sure Rich will tell you something. > > No need to remind me about opinions. I am not opinionated; I am making > facts. That is it. > > Todd > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > John Panarese > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 3:31 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Home in iOS 10.1.1 > > Remember. You are expressing your opinion. It is the opinion of one > person. It is not universal. What you consider to be important apps or > unimportant apps is not shared among everyone. I agree with you on things > like Stocks and Voice Memos, but I know others who would not agree with that. > So, as the expression goes, Apple can please some of the people some of the > time, but not all of the people all of the time. > > Bugs are going to be in software. It’s a reality of any product based on > the fact that so many different development teams do so much different work > as updates are made available. I don’t particularly feel we need yearly > updates to operating systems, but apparently, the majority of those who buy > the products do appreciate it. There are certainly outstanding bugs in iOS > that have lingered for far too long, but name a software product in which > one cannot make an equally valid statement. Android, Windows, etc … they all > have them. > > > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, j...@macfortheblind.com > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > > On Nov 18, 2016, at 4:23 PM, Todd Patkus <tpte...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Sieghard, > > The app store, iTunes store, Phone, Mail, and settings are the ones that I > consider to remain. I did not say ALL should be "non-native" but those apps > that are absolutely useless, such as voice memos, stocks, should never be > native but non-native. That is where I stand for. > > It is simply that a lot of the apps are simply useless and should never have > been native in the first place. They missed the point. I was one of the > ones who spoke out loudly at Apple. They cannot expect everyone to have > their products. When they said it, I simply ignored and made a blunt > statement to them making them realize they are just wasting such efforts > making them native. That cannot be so. > > Meantime, I see still bugs there. Apple needs to do more than just release > new versions of the iOS. They need to learn to do more thorough diagnoses to > ensure the apps work correctly before releasing them. Think about it. > > Todd > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:55 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1 > > Hi Todd, > > The good news is that as of iOS 10 you can in fact delete native apps such as > Mail, Voice Memos, Stocks, Calculator and so on. There are still some which > are essentials to the operation of the phone which can't be deleted and that > of course makes sense. These are apps like the App Store, Settings and so on. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Todd Patkus > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:23 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1 > > Hello there, Sieghard, > > I have a Braille Sense U2 Mini, so I would have to find the correct commands > for that. > > As for that app Home, it is totally useless to me, and I have no need for it. > So I would have kicked that goofy (smile) app out for good. > > The only thing I abhor about Apple is that they tend to put many apps on all > products that are often useless and cannot be deleted completely due to them > being native apps. That really sucks! Yes, these folks at Apple Inc. are > missing something in a large way. > > Not just Apple but other companies do the same. I just do not understand how > these folks act like this. they like to show off by saying there are apps > you need but the opposite is true. > > It is just a real goof on them! > > Thank you, Sieghard, for the information concerning the Home app. > > Todd > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:11 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1 > > Hi Todd, > > Apple has come up with a standard for home automation devices. These are > things like connected thermostats, lights like the Philipps Hue, door locks, > automated sprinkler control systems, cameras, devices to open and close > curtains or blinds and so on. If you have any such devices and they support > Apple's Home Kit standard they will appear in the Home app. > > I don't have a braille display, but maybe you know what commands to use if I > tell you how I delete apps and if you have ever moved apps you are half way > there. First, if I swipe up or down on any app on any home screen, Voiceover > says "Arrange Apps". At that point you can swipe up or down again with one > finger and this will go back and forth between "Activate Item" or "Move" > followed by the name of the app. If you then double tap on "Activate Item" > you will be asked if you want to delete the app and you can confirm and it > will be deleted. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Todd Patkus > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 10:36 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1 > > Chris, > > You mean that app is more for managing your personal doings? > > It is still on my iPhone now. How do one remove that Home app? Remember I > am deafblind so I am a strong Braille user. > > Thank you. > > Todd > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > christopher hallsworth > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:30 AM > To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Home in iOS 10.1.1 > > Hi > > The "home" app is the hub for managing homekit devices. I simply removed it > in the very first, and I mean very first, non-public, beta of iOS 10, as I > have no homekit devices and was simply not interested. > > > > On 18 Nov 2016, at 04:09, Todd Patkus <tpte...@gmail.com> wrote: > > To all: > > Many of you may know this, but wonder if any of y’all know exactly what the > Home app that was appended to iOS 10.1.1 is for? Exactly what does Home do? > > If any of y’all have used it for a time, share some of your experiences with > it. > > Todd > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - 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> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.Hi Todd and all! > How ar eyou all? Hey Todd, I actualy use the Vice memos app in ordr to record > and so n. and actually my boyfriend hwo i s deafblidn uses it as well to > record! And yes, I agree that thre is a lot of bugs in software, but one > should not complain about them; instead, one should suggest in fixig them. If > one keeps complaining then things will never get fix! I know that use a > braille display with an pple device is sometiems difficult, but nto > impossible. I look forward in hearing from uyou soon. Thanks so mcuh! -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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