I wonder what would it hurt for them to give screen reader users the 
functionality of iTunes 11 and make it specifically for accessibility purposes.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robin Frost 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 7:05 AM
  Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows


  Hi,
  I agree with sieghard on missing these features and have been dialoging with 
two Apple Accessibility personnel in an effort to keep the report of its broken 
status up to date in hopes of Apple restoring such functionality to all screen 
readers.
  Here’s hoping (smile).
  Robin


  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 1:44 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

  No problem, doing the usual phone/iOS maintenance stuff like 
updating/restoring via iTunes or doing regular or encrypted backups is no 
problem. The thing I miss the most is easy management of tones in iTunes. I 
used to be able to simply arrow down my list of tones and press the spacebar to 
check or uncheck the ones I wanted and then sync, the same was true for apps at 
one point.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Victor Gouveia
  Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:15 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

   

  Hi Sieghard,

   

  You may be right about that.  I have mine set to sync my entire playlist, and 
in terms of apps, I delete them manually off the phone.

   

  I stand corrected and apologize for my misstatement.  Smiles.

   

  Victor

   

  From: Sieghard Weitzel 

  Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:07 AM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

   

  Hi Victor,

   

  Connect your phone, then go to your device and either to music, apps or 
tones, check to sync selected items (in music or tones) and then try to select 
artists or albums or tones or, in the case of apps, try to select apps to sync.

  None of this works any more.

  Furthermore, I like to set my view to Songs and then turn on the column 
browser so I can select a particular genre, artist or album. Jaws does not read 
anything in All three of these lists (genre, artist and album). OK, let’s say 
on my new laptop it doesn’t, on my old one it seemed to sometimes work, but it 
would always say “L1” or something like that along with whatever it read.

  In a way I don’t care too much about it any more since now that I have Apple 
Music I typically don’t sync my entire music library to my phone any more, apps 
I can download from the App Store and in a pinch I can manage my tones 
manually. I can still select to sync all tones easily enough so my work-around 
is to have one folder with all my ringtones and this folder I don’t add to my 
iTunes library. I then have another folder and all tones in this folder I add 
to my library and thn I simply sync all tones. If I want to get rid of some I 
just go to the tones library in iTunes and delete the ones I no longer want and 
then resync. If I want to add tones I copy them into this folder, add it to the 
library again and then rsync.

   

  If you can select tones and apps with Jaws 18 and the latest version of 
iTunes you are the only one I know of who can do it and you really should do a 
Podcast and show all of us how it can be done.

   

  Take care,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Victor Gouveia
  Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:48 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

   

  I am using the latest version of Jaws, version 18, with the latest iTunes, 
and I have no problems with it.

   

  What exactly are you having problems with.

   

  Victor

   

  From: Richard Turner 

  Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:07 PM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

   

  Todd,

  I too will no longer try to help you.

  You are too rude for words.

  Richard

   

   

  “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."

  - Satsuki Shibuya

   

   

  (Sent from my iPod 6)


  On Nov 19, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

    Hi Todd,

    Why do you always feel insulted by everything people say. I am not getting 
on top of you and just as you I say whatever I want if it is relevant to the 
topic. I simply pointed out that the inaccessibility of iTunes is not only a 
Freedom Scientific problem and that they are not to blame alone.

    And now I will say one more thing. From now on I will no longer reply to 
anything you post, I will not attempt to answer any questions you ask. 
Unfortunately I think you will find that your agressive and confrontational 
tone will result in many others doing the same. I know you have additional 
challenges beyond being blind, but that doesn't give you the right to yell at 
anything anybody says which you don't like. Now as you are so font of saying 
"that is it". 

    Take care,
    Sieghard

    -----Original Message-----
    From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Todd Patkus
    Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:54 PM
    To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

    Sieghard,

    I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS".  Do not get on top of 
me!  Watch out what you are going to say.  All I did was suggest her contact 
them.  That is it!

    Todd

    -----Original Message-----
    From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel
    Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM
    To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

    Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't 
doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there 
which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a 
feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that 
companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do 
whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be.
    The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is 
implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more 
or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader.

    Regards,
    Sieghard


    -----Original Message-----
    From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Todd Patkus
    Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM
    To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

    Denise,

    If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you 
contact Freedom Scientific on this one.

    Todd

    -----Original Message-----
    From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Larry Lumpkin
    Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM
    To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

    I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all.


    -----Original Message-----
    From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of denise avant
    Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM
    To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows

    Hello everyone,
    I have a  few questions  about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is 
possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s 
plus  to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes  I am also 
wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it 
with JAWS  better? Thank you

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