Hi Terri,
After reading all the issues people had, I was expecting a horrible experience 
on my phone. Now, mind you, I use a braille display so I'm not exploring by 
touch and the like so I just moved around the screen. I know what kinds of 
shows I like so it's easy to tell where they are. I know which channels I like 
because I've watched them for years. There are apparently some things you can 
watch on demand already it looks like but not many. At least one thing it 
seemed like it was letting me play something old. Anyway, my only complaint is 
there's no way to see by genre what's on but if there isn't really onde'mand 
yet, then that might be why. 
I may 'stick with it as I like you have no issue with antennas. As it is, I was 
probably going to hook up one to get audio description as things like Hulu and 
Amazon don't have it. I don't know if this new service does, but my locals 
aren't included here in Oregon anyway.
Ia gree though. It's only the first day. It could be a lot worse. 
Elise

----- Original Message -----
From: Terri Stimmel  <icecreamlove...@outlook.com>
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com"  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:56 pm
Subject: Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming options

>
>
> Hi everyone,
> 
> 
> Ok in my opinion, this is getting just a bit silly! I'd like to choose a much 
> different word. But I am not usually a rude person, and I am trying very hard 
> to respect others, and their thinking.
> 
> 
> First of all, I'm glad that hopefully on-demand will be coming next year.. I 
> honestly didn't expect that to happen right away. Nor did I expect to have 
> some sort of cloud service,.
> 
> 
> I personally don't feel I am taking crap! And I certainly don't feel I am 
> being treated as though I was a black person back in the day. I feel that 
> isn't even a conparison,.
> I chose to try out this service, nobody held a gun to my head and made me. I 
> decided to take the 7 day trial, and I will decide rather or not to keep it.
> 
> 
> Personally, if I don't get my local stations, this isn't a huge deal to me. I 
> can understand how it can be for some. But, due to not having cable for about 
> 2 years, I've been using an antenna anyway. So I just plan to use this for 
> the local stuff I can't get from the App. That's just my choice.
> Plus I like the idea of doing that, because I will still get my local CW, and 
> My TV, Antenna TV, and ME TV. As well as Ion.
> I hope that at one point they do carry CBS. But right now I have CBS 
> All-Access. I realize not everyone can afford all these things, and I respect 
> this. Honestly, if I didn't have a great roommate who split the bills with 
> me, I would likely not have all I have.
> 
> 
> We are a minority. You have to consider the fact that many people don't even 
> think that we watch tv, or movies. So yes, we don't get considered in the 
> making of streaming Apps, or having the option to use Pay-Per-view, or 
> on-demand from most, or all cable companies. We have to have sighted 
> assistance with these things.
> Plus, if you think about it, you have to remember what channels are which 
> with your cable provider. Even though you can enter a number and get there, 
> you still have to remember which channel it is. So really, what's the 
> difference?
> Yes, I would like to have the channels numbered. Then I would just know right 
> where I would want to go. But you can search for a channel, which I think is 
> awesome! I did this last night, and it worked beautifully!
> 
> 
> I'm really very sorry that so many people seem to be so fed up with this 
> service already. That makes me kind of sad. It's new, it's not going to work 
> perfectly, and it's definitely going to have it's problems and issues for a 
> while. But to me this is normal, and to be expected. I don't think we should 
> all feel that this is going to work flawlessly, and be accessible right from 
> the beginning.
> I do hope they make things better. I also hope that once so many people 
> aren't signing up, and apparently trying to watch all at once, that the 
> service will not get overloaded. These are things that just have to be worked 
> out. I feel this will happen in time.
> 
> 
> When it comes to the aspects of better accessibility, if we can figure out 
> who to write, or discuss the situation with, we should most certainly do so. 
> But if we go in to the situation as though we are entitled, then what good is 
> that going to do us? You shouldn't want to do that, because you never get 
> anywhere that way.
> Making your voice heard, maybe more than once, and pointing out the areas 
> that need fixing, or correcting is something we should most certainly do. But 
> it has to be handled in the proper way.
> 
> 
> It's like sieghard told me when I was attempting to use Sling Tv. If you want 
> it to work so badly, and you feel so passionately about it, then do something 
> about it. Maybe that wasn't exactly right. I have trouble quoting people. But 
> that was close. He is perfectly correct, and this is what I myself desire to 
> do. I feel this service deserves a chance.
> You could barely do anything with Sling. I know, because I tried. I gave it 
> my all, and the service, and tech support was just horrible!
> 
> 
> So to me, even with all it's issues, including accessability issues, it's 
> something worth striving for. I am glad they had a 7 day trial. At least if 
> you are so disgusted with the service, you don't have to keep it.
> 
> 
> That's just my thoughts on the situation. Good luck, and happiness to all of 
> you who choose to stick with this for a while, and give it a chance. I think 
> from what we all learn, and do, we can help each other.
> 
> 
> Terri
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/30/2016 11:53 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> 
> X you must be in an area where your local channels are actually owned by the 
> network. If you aren't, then you won't get those channels. And how did you 
> know that you were actually getting that channel? God knows it's not label. I 
> guess you're supposed to just memorize what's on all the channels so you'll 
> know what channel you're on. I am continuously amazed at the crap blind 
> people will take without complaining. Kind of reminds me of what black people 
> used to put up with.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 9:23 PM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I get my local fox channel, and my local NBC channel.  Nobody will get CBS as 
> they haven't signed on yet, I don't watch anything on ABC, so didn't look for 
> it.
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 10:47 PM, Lynda Ingraham <lynda..ingra...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Mary, 
>  
> In addition to all of the valid points you raise related to accessibility, 
> local channels are not being offered in all markets. In the Albany, NY area, 
> local stations are not available. 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: disappointed with direectvnow any other good live streaming 
> options
>  
> It's worth it if you want another Apple TV. As a service, it is not worth it. 
> Not until they fix this channel problem. Really, Clifton, just how are you 
> going to deal with 20 or 30 channels and your favorite? Are you going to 
> memorize all of those? Do you really think that everyone should have to do 
> that? Oh and what about on-demand programming? I did a search for "on demand" 
> and didn't get what I was hoping to get, that is a list of available 
> on-demand program.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:53 PM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote:
> it's really not that bad once you get use to it.  If you would like me to 
> help you out, you can reach me at
> kliph...@icloud.com
> takes a little getting use to, but trust me it is worth it.  I signed up for 
> the 3 months in advance, and will have my 3rd appleTVBLED by christmas.
> On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:50 PM, Elise Ridout <eliserid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> Hi, I am not so far impressed with accessibility of the Direectvnow app. Is 
> there any other good method for streaming i.e. meaning I don't have to have 
> or pay for a cable box. As bizarre as it sounds, one of the reasons I 
> cancelled my Comcast was the obnoxiously loud noise the X1 box made, but they 
> don't offer a streaming-only option. I want to watch Investigation Discovery 
> Channel that is anyone familiar with an accessible app that has this channel? 
> Thank you. 
> Elise 
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