Or I should say: Whenever the back-translation (from Braille to text/speech) 
conterts a contracted .brf file, it would need to ignore the standalone 
punctuation or ! signs. 

From: Flor Lynch 
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 10:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Braille to speech apps?
Richard, 

Grade I, or uncontracted, Braille isn’t the same as Computer braille. So you’d 
have the file in pure uncontracted braille format. 

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 2:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Braille to speech apps?

I am fairly sure that Winston Chen did not develop the Voice Braille Reader, 
but you could write him directly at supp...@voicedream.com
to be sure.
Just to be clear, BARD braille books are not and never have been designed to be 
read by anything but a braille display. In fact, when using a braille display, 
you have to set it to uncontracted braille because if you try and use 
contracted braille it is attempting to contract things that are already 
contracted. To have a device read one of their brf files, it would have to be 
set to read computer code out loud, since, for example, the symbol for "t h e" 
is an exclamation mark, 'it would have to know that when it comes across an 
exclamation mark to speak that as those letters instead of treating it as a 
punctuation mark.


What about looking for the same title on Bookshare.
Richard



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(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Dec 11, 2016, at 1:13 AM, Cathy Inglis <cats.car...@gmail.com> wrote:


  I have the book invoice braille reader. When I press the speaker button, it 
is just jibber jabber. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't seem to recognize it 
as a grade to braille. Is this only supposed to read grade one braille? It's 
said that it could read bard books, when I got it. I wrote to the developer, 
but got the message back, saying it was undeliverable. Really I'm sad about 
this. I believe it's the same developer of voice dream reader, but not sure. 
Cathy and Tiny.


    On Dec 10, 2016, at 9:39 AM, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> wrote:



         Lets all of us who want to read brf files, contact the developer of 
oice dream reader to add this option?



    -----Original Message----- From: Timothy Emmons

    Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 12:05 PM

    To: viphone@googlegroups.com

    Subject: Re: Braille to speech apps?



    Hey, that would be awesome. I would love to find it. Too bad we can't share 
apps and get them that way. Lol. But, just let us know. I'll contin*e to keep 
an eye out. I don't want te carry two different devices when I can just cary 
one. Lol. Thanks again and take care.



    Sent from my iPhone



      On Dec 9, 2016, at 9:46 AM, susan <susan.wojte...@gmail.com> wrote:



      Kathy,

      I haven't used it much, but you basically have to move your BARD Braille 
files into Dropbox and export it from there into Voicebraille reader. Then in 
Voicebraille you need to turn voiceover off once you press the sxpeak button to 
begin reading. It's not fancy or perfect but does work and isn't difficult once 
you get the hang of it. Let me know if you need more help. For Tim, I think I 
got to it from the Appleviz site but it was a bit tricky to find so maybe a 
Google search? Of course, it may be removed, will try to find out later.



      Susan



      -----Original Message----- From: Cathy Inglis

      Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 2:10 AM

      To: viphone@googlegroups.com

      Subject: Re: Braille to speech apps?



      I have voice braille reader, but I can't seem to get it to work with bard 
books. Can anybody please help me do this. I really really do want to be able 
to use the app with  bard braille books. I do have a book that was put in there 
from Bard, I was able to do that, but I can't seem to get it to read.



      Cathy and Tiny.



        On Dec 8, 2016, at 9:27 AM, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> wrote:



        Perhaps we should ask the developer of voice dream reader if the option 
to read brf files could be added?



        -----Original Message----- From: Timothy Emmons

        Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 11:52 AM

        To: viphone@googlegroups.com

        Subject: Re: Braille to speech apps?





        Anna, I've looked in the app store. Unless, it's either IPad specific, 
and I can't find it on my phone, it looks like that is no longer there. Thanks 
for the pointer though. I'm on the lookout for one if something comes along, I 
find myself using Voice Dream Reader, Kindle, Ibooks, and Bard a lot more than 
remembering to grab my Lictor most days. Lol. Thanks for letting me know 
though. Take care and talk to you soon.



        Sent from my iPhone



          On Dec 7, 2016, at 12:20 PM, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> 
wrote:



          Hi Tim,



          There is only one app that can read braille files aloud, as far as I 
know. It's called Voice Braille Reader.



          Best,

          Anna







            On Dec 7, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Timothy Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> 
wrote:







            Sent from my iPhoneGuys, I have a curious question. Since I'm 
reading more with my phone, I'm looking to find an app that will translate 
braille to speech, like voicedream, but for braille files or documents. I dont 
Voicedream will translate them, not sure if read2Go would either, but looking 
for something on the iPhone that will translate braille to text so something 
like Voicedream will read them. Thanks for any help you can give. Take care and 
talk soon.



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