So a couple of quick questions about the Edge? How many things can be paired simultaneously? Does it always return to device 1 after handling the second device info? That's what I thought would happen here but clearly Apple is only actually connecting one device at a time. Many are paired, but examining the bluetooth settings in each device reveals that only one of them is connected. On the new devices this might work better, but as I've already said, it doesn't with what I have.
On 1/9/17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > Does the Edge have an ear loop? Goes to show how closely I examined what is > in the box. Anyhow, I find it fits in my ear perfectly and stays in securely > with this rubber thingi it has. My first Edge had a problem with the > microphones which basically quit working after a few months, but I called > Plantronics and they replaced it without hassle. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. > Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 6:46 PM > To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Apple watch and Air Pods > > Hi Murray, > > Yes, the Edge is smaller than the Legend. > > I loved my Legend and bought an Edge as a spare for when I misplaced my > Legend. Once I started using the Edge, I wasn't impressed at first, But then > I went back to the Legend, and I thought it was just too big and bulky > compared to the Edge. I've been using my Edge since, and just bought a > second as a backup, and because I was a little rough with the ear loop and > broke it. My fault totally. > > HTH, Keith > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Marie > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 7:53 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple watch and Air Pods > > I tried the Plantronics Voyager and it was just too big and I could not keep > it on my ear. I understand that the Edge is smaller. Is this true? I might > give it a try because I do think the Voyager was a great headset in every > other way but the size. > Marie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 4:14 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple watch and Air Pods > > Well, with respect to using the headset with two devices my Plantronics > Voyager Edge works a lot better then. I actually just paired it with my > Apple Watch and it works great. When I turn it on it will say "Phone 1 > connected" and a second or two later "Phone 2 connected". Then if I am > listening to an Audible book on my phone and a notification comes in on the > watch I hear the notification sound, if I wake up the watch my book stops > and Voiceover from the watch speaks via the headset and as soon as it's done > there is maybe just a second or so delay and my book automatically starts > reading again. It works great and I'm convinced now after reading some > reviews and hearing some of the feedback from Voiceover users that I am > going to wait at least until Apple releases the second generation of Airpods > which I wouldn't be surprised will be this fall. They are too expensive to > buy now and then maybe in 9 or 10 months they are way better and then you > kick yourself for not waiting. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Deb Lewis > Sent: Sunday, January 8, 2017 9:50 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Apple watch and Air Pods > > OK. I can get the watch to connect consistently now but it's not useful as > I'll explain. > You have to hold one of the Airpods in your hand right on top of the watch > and with that same hand I hit the Airpods button in the airplay menu. It > takes well over a minute, but doing this will get the watch connected. Now > stick that pod in your ear and you're good to go until you get a > notification on another device for example. Then, it disconnects from the > watch and jumps on to the other device. And you're welcome to start over for > the watch. > I have a ticket in with Accessibility. I thought they were ignoring it > because of some email I got indicating it ws closed, but it's not closed. My > recommendation would be to call in on the same issue because they said they > haven't had much feedback about using any of the watch series with VO. I'm > sure the newer watches are better simply because they respond faster, but > htis watch is supported as verified by the agent from Apple so they do > expect it to perform. > One more quick observation. The watch loses connection when another device > gets a notification etc. but this does not happen between the other devices. > > I have a phone for home and one for work, plus an Ipad and a Mac. In those > cases, the new sound, including phone ringing, does not connect the second > device. It would probably be good to be able to control whether this happens > or not because obviously for VO users we get more sound from our devices > than sighted people, but they certainly get phone calls which should be > treated differently from a notification sound in most cases. But I would say > I can reproduce everything I've described here. When I can I'm going to the > Apple store to see what they say and to perhaps try the experience with the > newer tech since my phone is a 6 and a 6S+, my watch is first generation and > my Ipad is a little older too. > > On 1/7/17, Robert Carter <nc5rn...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have had the same experience that Deb has had. I am using the series >> 0 watch. I’m not sure if Voiceover works better with the Airpods on >> the series >> 2 watch? When I restarted my watch with the AirPods in my ears, the >> watch started up with VoiceOver speaking through the EarPods. This >> only worked for five or ten minutes. Clearly, Apple has more work to >> do here. This seems to be a VoiceOver issue. Music plays from the >> watch to thee AirPods just fine. >> >> Robert Carter >>> On Jan 7, 2017, at 1:03 AM, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Can you share the magic recipe required to make it work with the watch? >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017, 8:41 PM Deb Lewis <deblewi...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> Well I can report that I have gotten both the phone and Voiceover to >>> come through the watch. So they can do it. But it's really hard to >>> get it connected and harder still to keep it that way. I think though >>> that I can rule out the notion that my specific unit is defective or >>> that Apple doesn't support this despite what it says. So I may make >>> more progress now. Definitely not acceptable even as a new product >>> but we'll keep trying now that it has worked once, sort of. >>> >>> On 1/6/17, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> > I found that AirPods only work with Apple Watch for music playback, >>> > but not for phone calls or VoiceOver. >>> > It may be "seemless switching", but it's still manual, and rquires >>> > switching via iOS 10 control center, or macOS Sierra audio output >>> > or bluetooth devices. >>> > >>> > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:26 AM Deb Lewis <deblewi...@gmail.com >>> > <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Well the pairing was seamless on all devices including the watch. >>> >> Switching between the two phones and the Ipad involves tapping on >>> >> the airpods under the control center bluetooth. So they are paired >>> >> with the watch. But when I go to airplay and tap on them as >>> >> instructed for the watch, they connect briefly and then connection >>> >> fails. They all have the current OS and are listed among the >>> >> supported hardware. Apple Accessibility says it should be working >>> >> better than this and they're supposedly looking into it. I asked >>> >> them if the intent was for the airpods to work on the watch only >>> >> when music is playing, I don't have any music on the watch. They >>> >> said it shouldn't be a factor but I'm thinking I should put some. >>> >> But I'd like to point the airpods to my watch, take my dog >>> >> outside, and answer the phone from the watch when it rings. Right >>> >> now I can't do that. >>> >> >>> >> On 1/6/17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca >>> >> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: >>> >> > Apple states that for the “seamless switching” iOS 10, Mac OS >>> >> > Sierra and Watch OS 3 are required. While Bluetooth Multipoint >>> >> > is not supported, Airpods should still work between Apple >>> >> > devices. They are after all made >>> >> by >>> >> > Apple and designed primarily for Apple devices and I am not >>> >> > surprised >>> >> that >>> >> > Apple is pulling the somewhat proprietary number here. Here is >>> >> > what it >>> >> says >>> >> > on the Apple website and what I am curious about regarding using >>> >> > the >>> >> Airpods >>> >> > with an iPhone and an Apple Watch: >>> >> > >>> >> > Automatic setup. Seamless switching. >>> >> > AirPods connect automatically with all your Apple devices. >>> >> > They’re simultaneously connected to your iPhone and Apple Watch, >>> >> > and sound >>> >> switches >>> >> > instantly between the devices. >>> >> > Want to listen to your Mac or iPad? Just choose AirPods on those >>> >> > devices. >>> >> > >>> >> > According to this they should work and switch seamlessly between >>> >> > an >>> >> iPhone >>> >> > and Apple Watch, but if you want to use them for an iPad or Mac >>> >> > computer >>> >> you >>> >> > have to select them as the audio destination. I have not bought >>> >> > them and >>> >> for >>> >> > now I doubt I will given the price especially here in Canada. I >>> >> > just >>> >> don’t >>> >> > feel like spending $250 which is what the price ends up being by >>> >> > the >>> >> time I >>> >> > add our sales taxes and then of course there is also my wife who >>> >> > might >>> >> want >>> >> > a set so that would be $500 if we both bought a pair and no >>> >> > matter how >>> >> you >>> >> > look at it that is a heck of a lot of money especially since >>> >> > Apple may release the second generation of these who might be a >>> >> > whole lot better >>> >> and >>> >> > offer a lot more control on the headset. I really don’t like the >>> >> > fact >>> >> that >>> >> > all I can do is invoke SIRI which of course isn’t even an option >>> >> > should >>> >> you >>> >> > be out of WiFi or cell data range. My Plantronics Voyager Edge >>> >> > is only a single earpiece, but it also pauses playback when I >>> >> > take it out of my >>> >> ear, >>> >> > it has volume controls, play/pause and forward/rewind on the >>> >> > earpiece, I >>> >> can >>> >> > still bring up SIRI and if somebody calls me I can just tell it >>> >> > to answer the call and it will do that without me ever touching >>> >> > the phone or the earpiece. It has 6 hours of talk time and more >>> >> > for playback time and also has a cradle which can recharge it a >>> >> > bit more than once. It was also half the price of the Airpods so >>> >> > even though I think the Airpods are probably very nice, they >>> >> > fall short of what I would want them to be for now. >>> >> > I used to feel it was OK to remove the headphone jack from the >>> >> > iPhone >>> >> > 7 >>> >> and >>> >> > 7 Plus, but right now I actually think it was probably not a >>> >> > great idea. >>> >> > Maybe if the new iPhone this coming fall supports really good >>> >> > wireless charging technology so that you can use a Lightning >>> >> > headset at the same >>> >> time >>> >> > as you charge and without having to resort to some complicated >>> >> > $40 >>> >> dongle I >>> >> > may change my mind again, but if the next iPhone still needs to >>> >> > be >>> >> plugged >>> >> > in I may very well hold onto my 6S Plus for a third year. >>> >> > >>> >> > Regards, >>> >> > Sieghard >>> >> > >>> >> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> >> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com >>> >> > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] >>> >> > On >>> >> Behalf >>> >> > Of Kevin Chao >>> >> > Sent: Friday, January 6, 2017 3:56 AM >>> >> > To: viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com >>> >> > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> >>> >> > Subject: Re: Apple watch and Air Pods >>> >> > >>> >> > I've found the AirPods (or Beats w/ W1-chip) to: >>> >> > 1. not support multipoint, so the switching between devices >>> >> > isn't >>> >> possible; >>> >> > 2. The magic of seemless pairing, auto-connecting, etc. only >>> >> > happens with iOS 10 device >>> >> > >>> >> > On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 5:23 PM Deb Lewis <deblewi...@gmail.com >>> >> > <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com><mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com >>> >> > <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>> >> > I got my Air Pods today. So far I am very impressed with the >>> >> > sound quality, but I got them to use back and forth between my >>> >> > phone and Apple Watch and they seem to be a big fail for this >>> >> > unless I'm really missing something. >>> >> > Pairing them to a phone was easy, and they easily reconnect >>> >> > themselves to that phone. But my Apple watch and my second phone >>> >> > will not stay connected, and the watch doesn't connect unless I >>> >> > reboot the watch. >>> >> > Every BT headset on the market can do this badly. I'm fine about >>> >> > going into Control panel on the watch and connecting, but it >>> >> > should connect and it should stay connected. but neither are >>> >> > true. So any suggestions are welcome. 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