Hi. You guys also need to remember, Applevis stated multiple times in the comments to that article, that they arent' under NDA. Therefore, whoever tipped them off to it, regardless of whether or not we think the posting was valid, violated their own NDA by releasing specific details. I'm just glad it's known publicly that it's fixed, so we can simply move on.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: The Dangers of Jumping the Gun Hi Shawn, this is not correct exactly. Let me explain my take on this. What Apple did in the KeyNote is talk about many of the upcoming features of iOS 6, what it will do, featured items. They didn't talk about all the changes, fixes, ETC. They did things to wet people's appetites. That's the kind of stuff which is perfectly legal to tweet about or talk about because as you point out, if Apple themselves talked about it, then it's public news and it came from the horse's mouth so-to-speak. The thing that people are upset about was the amount of details which were given regarding the accessibility of the app store. It would have been one to say that there are problems, but we can't give specific details and hopefully if things get worked out then it's a moot issue, but it was something totally different that the full nature of the details were given out and in the end it was for nothing because Apple ended up fixing them before release date. I'm not judging AppleVis or any of its editorial staff for what they did, just pointing out why some people are ok with this and why some are not. In fact, I was one of the people who initially posted to this list about how you should read what AppleVis has to say before you upgrade to iOS 6. at the time I posted that, I was thinking it was going to be a blog post made some time today to give people a heads up on what to expect. Personally I would choose to honor an NDA, but I'm also not the kind of troop who follows orders 100% of the time without question either. Does that make me wishy-washy? Or does that make me disloyal? I really don't care what people think. If it had been up to me, I would not have given as much details about the iOS 6 app store because it ended up causing disinformation and panic. Then people started thinking that Apple suddenly hates blind people, and the list goes on and on and on. Instead, I would have done something more vague like what I stated above, there are some issues which might impact the use of some iOS 6 features, please please read them when we can give details before upgrading, blah blah blah. But that's just me. I don't harbor any ill will toward AppleVis and I don't see the reason for the constant bashing and name calling i've seen on Twitter these last few days. -- Raul A. Gallegos My Doctor told me that I'm paranoid, I wonder if he's told anyone else... Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47 On 9/18/2012 1:58 PM, Shawn Keen wrote: > Just a curious thought, but, seeing that apple all ready did a huge > keynote presentation . with lots of reporters there who tweated the > event, all about IOS 6 wouldn't that totally void there NDA. > > I mean, if this blog had been put out the week before I could see a > problem. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Wil James <mailto:[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:49 PM > *Subject:* The Dangers of Jumping the Gun > > Now that the app store is reportedly fixed, I would like to bring to > your attention why posting the findings of a beta release to the > public is counter-productive. > > Here is an article that was posted by a mainstream news site. > Unfortunately, this makes us look bad. > > Siri, will Apple's App Store lock out #blind people on iOS 6? > http://t.co/Or0NIO4a > > A website has broken the wall of silence surrounding version 6 of > Apple's mobile operating system iOS - and alleged blind people will > struggle to use the App Store software in the new build. > > iOS 6 rolls out tomorrow for iPhones, iPads and iPod Touches - but > it has been in the hands of selected developers since July, allowing > them to adapt their apps ready for the big launch. > > Now a writer for AppleVis.com, which covers software for visually > impaired users, has reported problems with the upcoming iOS 6 release. > > Developers reading the article are warned that "posting specific and > detailed information about iOS 6 before it is released to the public > on 19 September would in most cases be a breach of [Apple's > Non-Disclosure Agreement], and could place you at risk of legal > action by Apple". > > But in the blog post dated 16 September, the AppleVis writer, who > identifies himself only as David, said he dropped the veil on iOS 6 > for good reason. The post "A Warning to VoiceOver Users Ahead of the > Release of iOS 6" claimed that blind or visually impaired Apple > users may be cut off from the App Store software in the next > iteration of iOS. > > According to AppleVis, tweaks designed to make the new App Store > more visually appealing have left it incompatible with VoiceOver - > the speech-driven user interface with which punters control their > gadgets. The website alleged that problem occurs with VoiceOver on > the iPhone, but could not verify that there was a similar issue with > the iPad. > > The post claims a compatibility problem with VoiceOver means that > search in the App Store will not work, pages shown will not match > what is being read out, and that visually impaired users will be > more or less cut off from using the service. > > AppleVis took the position that people should be warned: > > We have been alerted to a significant accessibility issue that is > likely to be present in iOS 6, and we believe that with the public > release just a few days away, we would be failing the community if > we did not issue a warning. > > The post explains: > > At the time of writing, the App Store app is virtually unusable with > VoiceOver on the version of iOS 6 that was released to developers > last week. This release is commonly referred to as the Gold Master, > and is effectively the final version. This problem has been reported > and replicated by several iPhone users. We are unable to confirm > whether the same problem exists on the iPad. > > AppleVis said it was hopeful that a fix would be issued before the > release. David added that the changes required would be relatively > simple - as the App Store is not hardcoded into the OS, but > dynamically served up from Apple servers. > > The Reg asked Apple for a comment on both the breaking of the > non-disclosure agreement and the unsuitability of iOS 6's App Store > for blind and visually impaired people, but has yet to receive a > reply on either count. > > ------------------- > > iMessage/E-mail: [email protected] > > Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/wiljames > > Personal web page: http://www.wilanddenise.com/wil > > ------------------ > > "You couldn't be me even if you wanted to after all I've been > through, you wouldn't know!" - Hellyeah > > -------------------- > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 7491 (20120918) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > "VIPhone" Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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