Hi Malcolm, Totally agree! I thought this list is called ViPhone, and not ViGun.
and to Mike B, who gives his U.s Rant, further down this thread, well first, let me say, you should moderate your Language!. It doesn’t sound like your Gun Toting views, has done very much for your stress levels to me. Maybe you need a different hobby! All the best, and i hope you don’t shoot yourself in the foot. Dave. From: Malcolm Parfitt Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 1:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Announcement: Blind Shooters (unmoderated discussion group) I find it rather strange that we are discussing guns and shooting on an Apple discussion list. The link between Apple and guns is rather tenuous unless your name is William Tell. Malcolm Parfitt From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist Sent: 15 August 2017 13:41 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcement: Blind Shooters (unmoderated discussion group) I for one have guns and will continue to have them. Here in St. Louis there is a wonderful gun range that I go to now and then. They are totally okay with a blind person shooting and to be very honest with you all, I had someone enter my home and me and my trusty little buddy escorted them out. I have taught my kids the use of guns and gun safety. I am glad we have a choice in this country. And Mike, I know exactly what you mean by the relaxation that comes from shooting. Kay Malmquist kay.malmqu...@gmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike B. To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:41 AM Subject: Re: Announcement: Blind Shooters (unmoderated discussion group) Hi Sieghard, I agree with you to some degree, but before I lost my sight at the age of 23 I only had a small interest in guns, so to speak. I did some hunting, dove, quail, & duck, & that was all with a shotgun. I shot my father's .22 caliber handgun / pistol from time to time, but never in my wildest dreams could I have perceived what was going to happen after I lost my sight. I lost my sight in 1981, & somewhere between 1981 & 1988 I had purchased a handgun for home protection, but in order to be a responsible owner / user finding a place to shoot was a problem! Well, I learned about an indoor shooting range that I joined in 1988. Wow! What a rush! Not the rush as in that I was totally enthralled with shooting, but how relaxed I felt after shooting. I was always stressed out, & this newly found way of relaxation made me feel so good! I evem spoke with a volunteer psychologist at the Braille Institute about how good I felt afterwards, & he said keep it up. What made me feel so good was the fact that my mind was on nothing else but the shooting! No blind crap worries,no legal worries, just out & out total relaxation. In short, I lost my sight from total medical malpractice from an abscessed wisdom tooth, not anything else! So, for may years I was pissed off at the world, & this newly found way of relaxation helped reel me back into reality, & in short, made me a better all around person! From shooting I graduated to deep sea fishing...., & now 36 years later I can say I miss my sight, but if this had not happened to me I wouldn't be the person I am today, & damn happy to be who I am! So, all the people around the world that think that all the United States citizens are gun nuts are wrong! Y'all read too much crap & have developed wrong opinions on what you read, & not by actually knowing! Most of the people I know don't own guns, & don't know the 1st thing about them! American fascination with guns, as Trump would say, FAKE NEWS, & he would be right! If other countries had the same fredoms as American citizens have, you would probably be singing a different tune, but since you don't, quit judging us by the crap you read, & try getting to know the people you criticize! I for 1 am damn tired of being judged by people that don't know shit about Americans, except for tcrap they read & don't take the time to develop their own opinion based on knowledge rather than heresay! How often do you hear Americans talking shit about all the rest of y'all?! You don't! I'm not a damn bit sorry for what I just wrote, so don't expect an apology! Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 9:49 PM Subject: RE: Announcement: Blind Shooters (unmoderated discussion group) Hopefully all you blind shooters won't take offense, but when a bunch of Americans talk about shooting I think it's pretty clear that they mean primarily guns. I really find the fascination most americans have with guns fascinating, no other country in the world is that crazy about guns. Anyhow, I'll leave it at that and before all of you gun lovers start yelling at me I should point out that I have nothing against hunting and sports shooting, after all, I have an outdoor and hunting store and sell a couple of hundred firearms a year myself, I loved to shoot before I became blind at the age of 16, but I don't personally shoot and just don't see a point in it just as I don't see a point in driving a car along at a slow speed where somebody sitting next to me can tell me to pgo a bit left or a bit right or whatever and of course as a Canadian coming originall from Germany I find it baffling why a normal citizen would want to walk around packing a gun, I'm very glad that this is not possible here and feel a lot safer for it. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Evan Reese Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 5:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcement: Blind Shooters (unmoderated discussion group) Yes, <chuckle>, I was going to ask the same thing. There's absolutely no info about what kind of shooting that list is about. Evan -----Original Message----- From: Victor Gouveia Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 7:48 PM To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries ; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Announcement: Blind Shooters (unmoderated discussion group) Shooting what? Videos? Pictures? Firearms? Tazors? What are you shooting? Victor -----Original Message----- From: Cara Quinn Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 6:06 PM To: 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries ; viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Announcement: Blind Shooters (unmoderated discussion group) Hi All, My apologies for the cross-post - I’ll make this quick. Considering that my recent iOS app posting for Where to Shoot prompted some good discussion and ideas and also private notes to me with questions about shooting, I have started the Blind Shooters Google Group. This is an unmoderated email list and is meant for all topics around shooting as a visually impaired / blind person. Here is the link for those interested in joining. https://groups.google.com/d/forum/blindshooters clickable Thanks all, see you there and please have a great rest of your weekend! Cheers! Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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