Hello Robin,

You're welcome. I hope the instructions worked for you.

Best,
Anna



> On Sep 16, 2017, at 1:30 PM, Robin Frost <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Anna,
> Thanks as always for your insightful contributions. They’re always 
> appreciated by me and I’m sure others as well.
> Take good care.
> Robin
>  
>  
> From: Woody Anna Dresner <>
> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:10 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List <>
> Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>  
> Hello,
>  
> Russ, yes, itunes file sharing still works.
>  
> Robin, yes, you can get custom ringtones on and off your phone. When your 
> phone is attached, find the list of items that starts with Summary, and move 
> down to the part of the list that shows what's on your phone. You'll 
> eventually get to Tones. You can delete one from there to remove it. To add 
> one, find it on your system, use the Copy command, go back to iTunes where it 
> says Tones, and paste. This works on a Mac, so I think it will also work in 
> Windows.
>  
> Best,
> Anna
>  
>  
>  
>> On Sep 15, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Robin Frost <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Anna,
>> Have you worked with how one deals with custom ringtones under the new 
>> iTunes? I’m curious how one either gets them on or off one’s phone if anyone 
>> knows.  I haven’t tried yet but do have some tones that I did not get from 
>> Apple’s store that I use from time to time so was just curious.
>> Take good care.
>> Robin
>>  
>>  
>> From: Woody Anna Dresner <>
>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 9:22 PM
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <>
>> Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>>  
>> Hi,
>>  
>> File sharing is still there. When your iPHOne is connected, it's one of the 
>> options in the list, along with Summary, Music, Movies, etc.
>>  
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>  
>>> On Sep 15, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected] <>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> I just updated last night and as far as my own music library goes there 
>>> seems to be little difference for me. I still select “Songs” in the 
>>> sidebar, then I turn on the column browser and hide the side bar and I have 
>>> the same interface it seems where I have my columns/combo boxes for genre, 
>>> artist and album and then a listview with all my songs or, if I selected 
>>> anything in any of the 3 columns only the songs which apply.
>>> There are now only 5 media types as follows:
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Music, shortcut is Control+1 as always
>>> Movies, Control+2 also as before
>>> TV Shows, Control+3 as before
>>> Podcasts, Control+4 which I think is also the same
>>> Audio Books, Control+5, this one is announced by Jaws as iTunes U which I 
>>> think was on that shortcut before so of course Jaws needs to change this 
>>> announcement in the future.
>>> You used to have I think Apps on Control+7 and Tones, but as we all know 
>>> these are now gone.
>>> I just went to the Movies section and it actually seems to be more 
>>> accessible as the column browser now seems to apply here, I have one column 
>>> with genres so to speak, things like Action and Adventure, Comedy etc., 
>>> then the second column is called artists as well, haven’t quite figured out 
>>> what the names here are, but after that I have a nice listview just as with 
>>> songs where all my movies appear one underneath another and Jaws reads the 
>>> title and a brief summary of the movie.
>>> When I go to TV Shows I only have one I ever bought and it is Star Trek 
>>> Voyager Seasons 1 and 2, but as I bought them as a package it lists them 
>>> together, but the list view again nicely shows each episode, 1 to 15 and 
>>> then again 1 to 26 for season 2, Jaws perfectly reads each episode with 
>>> episode number and title.
>>> I just went to the Podcasts section as well, since I never set it up it 
>>> asked me to do so and using the Jaws Touch cursor it read me all the 
>>> information there, I activated the continue button and the Podcasts I am 
>>> subscribed to using the Podcasts app on my iPhone all showed up, I can 
>>> arrow up and down through the episodes and have buttons for default 
>>> settings, settings and more, it all seems to be fine.
>>> Audio Books I only have a few in iTunes, but they also are read out and 
>>> seem accessible.
>>> I don’t have time now to connect my iPhone and play around with that, but 
>>> I’ll do that tonight or over the weekend and take a look, certainly as far 
>>> as the library goes I find this version of iTunes more accessible than 
>>> before especially for the movies, TV Shows, Podcasts and Audio Books 
>>> sections.
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>  <> 
>>> From: [email protected] <> [mailto:[email protected] <>] On 
>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 7:15 AM
>>> To: [email protected] <>
>>> Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>>>  
>>> For those having trouble accessing your music in the new iTunes, try NVDA.
>>> At least it reads the artists or albums whereas Jaws isn’t reading them for 
>>> me.
>>>  
>>> Richard
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: [email protected] <> [mailto:[email protected] <>] On 
>>> Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
>>> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 6:12 AM
>>> To: mailto:[email protected] <>
>>> Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>>>  
>>>     From the article I saw posted, I got the impression you can no longer 
>>> use itunes file sharing to transfer content to a app that supports itunes 
>>> file sharing?  I hope I’m wrong?
>>>  
>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:08 AM
>>> To: [email protected] <>
>>> Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>>>  
>>> Yes, it was in the article somebody posted.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: [email protected] <> [mailto:[email protected] <>] On 
>>> Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 6:23 AM
>>> To: mailto:[email protected] <>
>>> Subject: Re: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>>>  
>>> Do you know if you can still use file sharing in itunes 12.7?
>>>  
>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:03 AM
>>> To: [email protected] <>
>>> Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>>>  
>>> The article says you can still manage ringtones you have with iTunes so 
>>> that part won’t be changed would be my interpretation I think there would 
>>> be a pretty big outcry if Apple did not at all allow users to add their own 
>>> ringtones.
>>> As for the app store in iTunes, well, I haven’t used that to manage apps in 
>>> a long time so as far as I am concerned I won’t miss it. Yes, I know that 
>>> some Voiceover users like to make sure they have backup copies of apps in 
>>> case a new update breaks accessibility and this just means set app updates 
>>> to manual on the iPhone and let somebody else take the plunge first if you 
>>> are really concerned.
>>> What the author said about developing countries and bandwwidth and all that 
>>> to me doesn’t make much sense since certainly people in developing 
>>> countries often don’t even have a computer let along a home WiFi. My wife 
>>> is from the Philippines which isn’t even among the poorest countries and 
>>> even there people who have an iPhone are usually in the top few percent of 
>>> the population in terms of wealth, the large mass of people there can’t 
>>> afford an iPhone and they certainly don’t have a computer or a home WiFi 
>>> network.
>>> As for iTunes U it does make sense for that to be in something like the 
>>> Podcasts app but why Apple won’t let you manage your books on the computer 
>>> is a mystery to me, too. I think there is a big trend towards getting away 
>>> from iTunes and having your phone tethered to a computer for all sorts of 
>>> things, but having some of these options surely can’t hurt, either.
>>> One feature I am sure many of us will like is the new Files app in iTunes. 
>>> I just downloaded a Dropbox update and in the Whats New section it 
>>> mentioned that Dropbox in this updated added compatibility with the Files 
>>> app so you will see all your Dropbox content in the Files app. I assume 
>>> OneDrive will follow suit and this new app should really make it much 
>>> easier to add and manage files of all types on your device.
>>>  
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>  
>>> From: [email protected] <> [mailto:[email protected] <>] On 
>>> Behalf Of James Homuth
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:05 AM
>>> To: mailto:[email protected] <>
>>> Subject: RE: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>>>  
>>> Note to self: hold on to current version of iTunes until it becomes 
>>> impractical.
>>>  
>>> Also: what does this mean for those of us who prefer to make our own 
>>> ringtones? Are we boned as of latest version?
>>>  
>>> From: [email protected] <> [mailto:[email protected] <>] On 
>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: September-13-17 10:59 AM
>>> To: [email protected] <>; [email protected] <>; 
>>> [email protected] <>
>>> Subject: iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>>> 
>>>  
>>> iTunes 12.7: How to cope with the abrupt changes
>>> Macworld  /  Glenn Fleishman
>>>  
>>> 
>>> iTunes 12.7 appeared Tuesday 
>>> <https://www.macworld.com/article/3224565/software-entertainment/itunes-12-7-for-mac-removes-ios-app-store.html>
>>>  following Apple’s slate of product announcements 
>>> <https://www.macworld.com/article/3224474/apple-phone/iphone-x-event-recap-everything-apple-announced-at-its-first-apple-park-event.html>,
>>>  and its version number hides how much that’s disappeared and changed in 
>>> this release. The iOS App Store is wiped out, as are ringtones. iTunes U 
>>> and Internet Radio have moved locations And iTunes for Windows lost its 
>>> ability to manage books in iOS.
>>> IDG
>>> The first time you launch iTunes 12.7, it gives you this hilarious bit of 
>>> fluff about the changes made
>>> While many people have argued iTunes’ feature creep over the years had made 
>>> it an increasingly odd sack of unrelated items, this shift doesn’t come 
>>> with commensurate improvements or additions elsewhere in macOS, and may 
>>> cause some difficulties for people with modest Internet throughput or low 
>>> bandwidth caps, which can affect people across both the developed world 
>>> (more the U.S. than elsewhere) and the developing one.
>>> The biggest hit is to the iOS App Store in iTunes, which was always a 
>>> strange fit. iOS apps were in iTunes, because iTunes was once the only way 
>>> to manage content. But you’ll have to adjust your behavior and find new 
>>> places to carry out activities you might have before. Let’s go through the 
>>> changes.
>>> What to do about no iOS apps in iTunes 12.7
>>> 
>>> The App Store in iTunes is kaput and there’s nothing you can do about, so 
>>> dry your tears and let’s move on. Apple doesn’t let it go neatly out the 
>>> door, however. After updating, I found that 5GB of “.ipa” files—the file 
>>> format for apps—remained in my home directory (in ~/Music/iTunes 
>>> Library/Mobile Applications/) You can throw those away unless you’re 
>>> nostalgic.
>>> If you were used to syncing your apps via iTunes and making purchases in 
>>> macOS to sync back, that capability is now restricted to iOS. You won’t 
>>> consume more bandwidth downloading an app via iOS than macOS—unless you 
>>> have multiple iOS devices syncing the same apps to a single Mac.
>>> Where it will really hurt is if and when you need to restore an iPhone or 
>>> iPad. You can still perform iTunes backups, but the restore won’t transfer 
>>> apps from your Mac, but instead re-download them over the Internet from 
>>> Apple. That can easily consume gigabytes of bandwidth, depending on your 
>>> app choices. Many users download few apps, or those apps that are 
>>> relatively modest, and this won’t be as big a hit.
>>> There’s no way to bypass or minimize this problem. If you have any kinds of 
>>> restrictions on your internet service—whether in performance or limits—you 
>>> should consider using a public Wi-Fi hotspot or the Wi-Fi of a friend 
>>> without those limits. You’ll need to plan ahead when you wipe and want to 
>>> restore an iOS device.
>>> You might wonder what happened to File Transfers, a hack that Apple 
>>> introduced many years ago to allow iOS apps to sync data back and forth 
>>> with a Mac before iCloud Drive, Dropbox, Google Drive, and other methods 
>>> were readily available. It remains: with an iOS device connected, click its 
>>> icon in the area below the playback bar, and then click File Sharing in the 
>>> navigation list at left.
>>> IDG
>>> File Transfers remains, even though apps are gone.
>>> Other changes in iTunes 12.7
>>> 
>>> Ringtones are no longer managed as purchases in iTunes, but you can find 
>>> previously downloaded ones and manage those in iTunes. Apple says any 
>>> downloaded ringtones are in the~/Music/iTunes Library/Tones/ folder. And if 
>>> you select your device in iTunes, you can click the Tones item under On My 
>>> Device to remove and add them.
>>> In iOS 11, coming shortly, Apple will let you re-downloaded previously 
>>> purchased ringtones <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207955> and manage 
>>> them directly on the device.
>>> IDG
>>> You can pick what shows up in the music library sidebar, including Internet 
>>> Radio.
>>> iTunes U content was moved to podcasts in iTunes, while Internet Radio is 
>>> now part of the music library sidebar. If you’re not seeing Internet Radio, 
>>> Control-click on the music sidebar, choose Edit List, and check the 
>>> Internet Radio box. (While there, you can opt to include or exclude other 
>>> items.)
>>> Finally, Windows users will find themselves paging through their version of 
>>> iTunes, trying to find Books It doesn’t matter how thoroughly you ruffle 
>>> the app: Apple says in a bit of doublespeak, “Books on iTunes for Windows 
>>> are managed in iBooks for iOS.”
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Original Article: 
>>> https://www.macworld.com/article/3224531/software-entertainment/itunes-127-how-to-cope-with-the-abrupt-changes.html#tk.rss_all
>>>  
>>> <https://www.macworld.com/article/3224531/software-entertainment/itunes-127-how-to-cope-with-the-abrupt-changes.html#tk.rss_all>
>>> 
>>> 
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