Hi,

Encrypted backups save your HealthKit and password data, while unencrypted ones 
don't. iCloud backups also save this data, which they didn't used to do, so so 
they are now equivalent. However, either an iCloud or encrypted backup is 
better than an unencrypted backup.

Best,
Anna



> On Sep 20, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Harry Bell <ubupanora...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Also, Johnathan Mosen in his ios 11 book says that nowadays there is little 
> advantage in iTunes encrypted backups compared with iCloud backups so long as 
> you use Keychain. Is this correct?
> Harry
> 
>> On 20 Sep 2017, at 15:28, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Seighard,
>> 
>> Why is the encrypted part of your advice to make an encrypted backup 
>> important?  I have made backups before this using iTunes, but I've never 
>> seen how to be sure they are encrypted, and don't know why (other than 
>> security) this may be important?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Chip
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 4:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: iOS11 and Notifications
>> 
>> Hi Jed and Billy,
>> 
>> I highly recommend you go to www.applevis.com, find the iOS 11 article (I 
>> just thought I try Jaws Find and searched for iOS 11 and this put me right 
>> on it) and read that article.
>> After I did this I decided to upgrade since there are some braille related 
>> bugs which don't concern me since I use neither braille input nor do I have 
>> a braille display. There are also a few things which mention Voiceover 
>> together with Zoom and this is also not a concern for me. The rest I think I 
>> can live with until Apple fixes it.
>> I did my usual preparation:
>> 1. Check to see if there are any updates, there were two and one mentioned 
>> iOS 11 compatibility so it's always a good idea to make sure all your apps 
>> are up to date especially before a major update.
>> 2. Connect to my laptop, open iTunes and do a sync and then an encrypted 
>> backup.
>> 3. I then went to Settings > General > Reset and tapped Reset Network 
>> Settings. After the phone rebooted I renamed it again to what I wanted and 
>> reconnected to my WiFi.
>> 
>> I now tried to update via iTunes, but everyt time I clicked "Check for 
>> Updates", iTunes said it could not contact the update server and all I could 
>> do is press OK.
>> I then went to Settings > General > Software Update on my iPhone. The iOS 11 
>> update was there instantly. I have a 6S Plus and it said the update was 2.04 
>> Gb and I tapped on Download and Install.
>> After agreeing to the license terms it sat there for a few seconds saying 
>> requesting update, then it started the download maybe 20 seconds before the 
>> clock on my PC jumped to 12:45 PM.
>> I guess it's nice to have a fibre connection with 125 Mb download as the 
>> actual download was done in just over 3 minutes at 12:47.
>> The phone then restarted and just a few minutes ago, at 1:02 PM, Voiceover 
>> came up and asked for my PIN, after I entered it I was asked to also enter 
>> my Apple Id password and after a few seconds of showing the message 
>> "Updating iCloud Settings" I had the message that the update was successful 
>> and was at the "Get Started" button.
>> From start to finish it was basically 18 minutes and a bit over 3 of those 
>> were for the download, about 14 for the install, very smooth despite the 
>> fact that probably a lot of people are updating now.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Billy Maynard
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 12:24 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iOS11 and Notifications
>> 
>> hi,
>> 
>> I'll just point you all to what seghard (sorry about spelling) said about 
>> ios 11.  update at your own risk and I'm sure the update servers are 
>> overloaded currently if you can not update.  Just some caushionary words I 
>> remember and plan to pay attention too as he is onthe bata testing people.
>> 
>> Billy Maynard
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jed Barton" <j...@jedbarton.com>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 2:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: iOS11 and Notifications
>> 
>> 
>> Hey guys.  I have not been able to download IOS 11.  My phone keeps
>> telling me my software is up to date.
>> Any ideas?
>> 
>>> On 9/19/17, Davy Cuppens <davycupp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> This is a known heavy bug.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>> From: Carla
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 8:41 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: iOS11 and Notifications
>>> 
>>> Yes I'm just getting the notifications sound but no speech.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Brian Hansen
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:40 AM
>>> To: VIPhones <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: iOS11 and Notifications
>>> Importance: High
>>> 
>>> I was just wondering if anyone else is having problems with the 
>>> announcement
>>> 
>>> of their incoming notifications. Since upgrading to iOS 11, any time a
>>> notification comes in, VO just announces the time instead of reading the
>>> notification. Other than my notification dilemma, I’m really impressed 
>>> with
>>> 
>>> the responsiveness of VO on my 7 Plus. Also, this was the fastest I’ve 
>>> ever
>>> 
>>> been able to download the upgrade using iTunes. It came in at right around 
>>> 5
>>> 
>>> minutes. Now on to explore some more new features.
>>> 
>>> Blessings,
>>> 
>>> Brian
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