But it is supposed to work independently your phone  so how is it making 
connection with the provider or the network?
Earlier watches Just  could  connect only with Wi-Fi and Bluetooth to the phone 

But that supposed to have changed with the new version of watches 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2017, at 9:11 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> No, you can't. You don't insert any Sim into any of these watches. It has 
> something inside built-in. So you need your phone and your phone number. So 
> presumably, if you switched to a different carrier, all you would have to do 
> is repair the watch with the phone. I'm not sure about that, but I don't see 
> why that wouldn't work. It's one-size-fits-all as far as the wach  goes.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2017, at 5:59 PM, TaraPrakash <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Does anybody know if there will be an unlocked version of the watch? 
>> 
>> Can I insert a no contract Sim card  to work with the watch without a phone 
>> ? 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2017, at 6:21 PM, GS <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, I did the signature while I was on the phone making the order. 
>>> However, I had to close my mail client and restart it because the email was 
>>> not pushing and wouldn't submit to an attempted pull. The T-Mobile 
>>> representative was insistent that we complete it at that time and I was not 
>>> prepared to argue with her because I too wanted to get the order completed 
>>> to insure I would get the watch as soon as possible.
>>> 
>>> I do not have much personal experience with using the Apple Watch prior to 
>>> receiving this one so I may not be a good person to say how it differs from 
>>> the Series 2. I can tell you that I am getting acquainted with it and it 
>>> seems to work very well. I have to keep reminding myself that it is not an 
>>> iOS device in a smaller box and it is not going to allow me to do 
>>> everything I can do on the iPhone. It is fairly responsive compared to what 
>>> I have heard about the Series 2. I have heard some demos of the Series 2 
>>> and decided to wait for a faster processor before spending money on it.
>>> 
>>> The Series 3 seems to take about 70 seconds to boot. Most of the apps load 
>>> within a reasonable amount of time. VO is fairly snappy when using it with 
>>> the watch speaker. As with iOS, when using VO with blue tooth headphones 
>>> can be laggy.
>>> 
>>> I was able to get the LTE setup with no difficulty and it connected fairly 
>>> quickly (within a couple of minutes) the first time I tried it. The battery 
>>> has been surprisingly good so far but I will reserve final judgment since 
>>> I've only been using it for a little more than 24 hours and that mostly 
>>> connected via the iPhone.
>>> 
>>> I don't mind the way Siri works on the watch. I like reading the screen 
>>> better than chatting back and forth with an assistant anyway. Today I asked 
>>> Siri "What is the nearest cycling store" and got a single result with all 
>>> relevant information including phone number and address.
>>> 
>>> I am learning about complications and faces and am still in the process of 
>>> determining how I want to organize the watch for maximum efficiency. I am 
>>> evaluating apps to figure out which ones really work and which are 
>>> gimmicks. For instance, I was hoping to be able to use the Starbucks app to 
>>> make an order via the watch but that is not possible. On the other hand, 
>>> the Chipotle app will allow one to complete a new order from a past order.
>>> 
>>> I love how the Messages app works but am disappointed that I can't seem to 
>>> work out what is causing Twitterrific not to work at all. I am not too 
>>> concerned with that because one of the things I want to do with Twitter is 
>>> view timelines and Twitterrific will not do that.
>>> 
>>> I am disappointed that there is not a Spotify app but I now have the 
>>> pleasure of a subscription to Apple Music again. I speculated that Apple 
>>> decided to hold its watch users hostage to its own music offering and may 
>>> not be allowing there to be a Spotify app but I do not know that to be 
>>> true. So I will pay for both services for the time being.
>>> 
>>> I am disappointed with the functionality of the TuneIn app not streaming 
>>> directly to the watch as I use it a lot.
>>> 
>>> I enjoy the ability to get the seconds of time rather than just the minute. 
>>> Fantastical has a quite nice interface, as does Mail. I am looking forward 
>>> to experimenting with Downcast and many other apps.
>>> 
>>> I have never liked talking to my phone but have realized that I need to get 
>>> past that and will endeavor to do so in order to take advantage of the 
>>> features of the watch.
>>> 
>>> I am still an infant with regard to the Apple Watch but am happy with my 
>>> experience thus far.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>>> Of lenron brown
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 9:34 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my 
>>> carrier
>>> 
>>> Awesome, what are your thoughts so far. I would have probably had mine 
>>> yesterday if I had signed the e signature in time. When I talked to the rep 
>>> after setting up the pre-order she told me the twenty second would be the 
>>> date I would receive it, but When I got the signature done the next day, I 
>>> got the 30th of October. I need to see about my phone today so might see if 
>>> I can just pick one up in the store.
>>> 
>>>> On 9/23/17, GS <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I received my Series 3 watch ordered through T-Mobile yesterday. I 
>>>> also got the three months free LTE. I ordered via telephone at a 
>>>> little after 12:00 Pacific Time on the first day of preorders.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 8:47 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: RE: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from 
>>>> my carrier
>>>> 
>>>> I'm surprised you are only getting the watches in late October, it 
>>>> sounds to me like on some of the Podcasts people are already about to 
>>>> receive them and I'm pretty sure they said they were the cellular model.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Rick Alfaro
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 4:23 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: RE: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from 
>>>> my carrier
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, that was  pretty much it. It was a really good video by someone 
>>>> comparing the various series 3 models with very good explanations of 
>>>> their differences, including some I wasn't aware of.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 6:13 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from 
>>>> my carrier
>>>> 
>>>> Should've asked in my previous message, how did you find the YouTube 
>>>> stuff on the series 3 with cellular, since it's not out yet? What did 
>>>> you search on, probably the obvious, Apple Watch Series 3?
>>>> Mary
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 18, 2017, at 3:00 PM, Rick Alfaro <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mary, I had the same question and unfortunately the same experience 
>>>>> when calling TMobile. The last CSR I spoke to told me that I would 
>>>>> get the 3 month free offer only if I ordered through TMobile. Since 
>>>>> the rep was not able to tell me if there was a long wait or even if 
>>>>> they would have them in stock, I chose to order via the Apple Store 
>>>>> app along with AppleCare and just forget about the $30 savings on the 
>>>>> data account.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've been listening to some YouTube on the Series 3 watch, so I'm 
>>>>> kind of on the fence now with keeping the cellular model or returning 
>>>>> it for the GPS only model. Apparently, the cellular model takes a 
>>>>> huge hit on battery life when used as a cell phone only lasting an 
>>>>> hour of talk time. I expected a hit but not that bad. I may just 
>>>>> decide to exchange it for the non-cellular model.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 4:38 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Confused about ordering the watch from Apple versus from my 
>>>>> carrier
>>>>> 
>>>>> I suppose this might not be on topic, but it is about the new watch, 
>>>>> so maybe. I'm trying to figure out if I'm going to have to go through 
>>>>> T-Mobile, or if there is any advantage in so doing, versus ordering 
>>>>> straight from Apple. Ordering from Apple looks easy right from my 
>>>>> phone. I called T-Mobile today, which was stupid I suppose, because I 
>>>>> got one of those folks overseas, and we clearly were not 
>>>>> communicating well. She told me one thing and then seem to contradict 
>>>>> herself twice, so I hung up and I guess I will call them again 
>>>>> tomorrow. I would just assume do it through Apple and get AppleCare, 
>>>>> but I want to make sure I would get the three month free trial at 
>>>>> Cetera. And there might be other advantages. Has anyone ordered the 
>>>>> watch straight from Apple? And do you understand any differences 
>>>>> between going that way or going through your carrier? I hope when I 
>>>>> call T-Mobile tomorrow I get somebody in the US. I had pretty good 
>>>>> luck with that before, but last week, I got another one of those 
>>>>> overseas people who was clueless, screwed up an order changing my 
>>>>> data plan, and I had to call back and get tech-support from the United 
>>>>> States, thank God. I thought T-Mobile was getting rid of their overseas 
>>>>> support folks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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