I think the problem with that I grill thermometer is that it started out as a 
small company. And I recall several years ago when they really did understand 
about Accessibility. Obviously, based on the name, they have been bought by 
Weber. A bigger company. Who doesn’t give a damn about Accessibility.I 
certainly agree that at least in theory, if you buy something with an app and 
it’s accessible, then it becomes  inaccessible the company should have to buy 
it back from you for what you paid for it if not more, becausethey have just 
screwed up a part of your life. Somehow, I am pretty sure that’s not going to 
happen in the age of rampant super rich free market capitalism.

Mary


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> On Nov 23, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> It really bugs me if companies which require you to buy hardware then mess up 
> the app, there should be ways to hold them accountable, I would probably 
> demand that they take back the product and refund me in full for the purchase 
> price.
> I wonder what would happen if a company sold something with a display and 
> then decided to push an update to the device which would disable the display 
> and sighted users would have to start Voiceover in order to interact with the 
> device, people who spent money for such a device would go crazy.
> Kay, have you contacted the maker of iGrill?
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> .
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Kay Malmquist
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 7:01 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Cult-like worshippers' turn Canadian-invented Instant Pot into a 
> phenomenon
>  
> Suffices to say, the app is great and I hope they don't make changes to it.  
> There is a 4 probe thermometer that was called the iGrill and now is the 
> Weber iGrill.  When it first came out the app was totally usable to where you 
> could find different kinds of meats and set alarms to tell you when you were 
> getting close to the doneness that you required.  Now, you can barely use it 
> and just forget about finding different kinds of meats and setting any 
> alarms.  You can check temperatures but that is about all and getting there 
> is questionable. 
>  
> Kay Malmquist
> [email protected]
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> From: Dave
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 6:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Cult-like worshippers' turn Canadian-invented Instant Pot into a 
> phenomenon
>  
> Think this subject is starting to get off topic.
>  
> Dave.
>  
>  
> From: Kay Malmquist
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 10:57 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Cult-like worshippers' turn Canadian-invented Instant Pot into a 
> phenomenon
>  
> Ah yes, but if you have never done either hard or soft boiled eggs in the 
> instant pot you would never go back to the stove.  When you do them in the 
> instant pot the shell just slides off of the egg and no membrane sticks to 
> the egg.  It is wonderful.
> Kay Malmquist
> [email protected]
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> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 3:37 PM
> Subject: RE: Cult-like worshippers' turn Canadian-invented Instant Pot into a 
> phenomenon
>  
> Really, Cristóbal, soft boiled eggs? Just put your egg in a pot, put cold 
> water in it so it covers the egg and then bring it to a boil over high heat. 
> As soon as the water boils remove the pot from the stove completely  or put 
> it on an unused area and set a 4 to 6 minute timer (depends on how runny you 
> want the yoke to be). Make sure to put under cold water as soon as the time 
> is up and it works every time.
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Cristóbal
> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 9:50 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Cult-like worshippers' turn Canadian-invented Instant Pot into a 
> phenomenon
>  
> It is 100% accessible. The app is at least. There are various models, but the 
> one if you’re blind that you want to get is the bluetooth model.
> My wife’s getting to love it. More than anything, it takes the guess work and 
> fear out of working with a pressure cooker.
> I’ve made pretty standard stuff with it. Soft boiled eggs, oatmeal, rice, 
> yogurt, etc. She’s the chef in the family, so she’s made more stuff with it. 
> Soups, quark and regular cheese cake, pork and beef roast, rice pudding. In 
> fact, she’s making a cherry cheese cake  in the instant pot right now and 
> will be making a beef roast for Thanks Giving dinner a bit later.
> In short, it’s the bomb.
> We’re thinking of getting my mother-in-law in Germany one for Christmas this 
> year too.
> If only there were other smart appliances such as this that were made fully 
> accessible with an app.
> I know there are more and more appliances with voice recognition like 
> washers/dryers, ranges and so on, but always having to speak out commands can 
> seem a bit tedious.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 10:57 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Cult-like worshippers' turn Canadian-invented Instant Pot into a 
> phenomenon
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I Came across this article about the InstantPot on CBC News today.
> I know it has been discussed here and I seem to remember that the app was 
> considered to be very accessible. Is this still the case?
>  
> Best regards,
> Siegharrd
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