Wow, both my keypad locks have the two rows with the lock button all by its 
lonesome above the 3 which is right in the middle above the top row.
I really don’t find this at all inconvenient. I did have a lock before with a 
phone keypad layout and once I got the other one it became second nature after 
a few days.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 11:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?

My mom has a keypad lock like the one you mentioned. It drives me crazy, 
because the numbers go from 1-5 along the top row, and 6-0 along the bottom 
next row, with some unknown button right underneath the 8. I really wish it had 
the numbers in a standard telephone layout, but I'm at their house so rarely 
that it's not really a big deal. If I ever did get a keypad lock like this, I'd 
like to find one with the numbers in the standard telephone layout.


Thanks,
Ari

On Jan 17, 2018, at 4:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Most of these locks are available at Home Depot, Best Buy also has some, but at 
least Best Buy Canada does not seem to sell the Schlage Sense.
Definitely if you want just a basic electronic lock with keypad Home Depot or 
another large building supply store is a good place to start.
Amazon of course sells most of them as well.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rebecca Sabo
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 4:12 PM
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Subject: Re: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?

Hi ,
where do you get this lock?
Becky
On Jan 14, 2018, at 11:22 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Installing a basic electronic lock is not super-difficult, but you might want 
to have a backup plan, somebody you can call and ask for help, just in case.


From: 
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 On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?

Thanks a million folks for this valuable information.
I do not have a security company, and I have no intention to hire one.  It is 
simply not needed in my area.
I asked my question because I have a tendency to lock myself out often.  That 
is why I thought of fingerprint or digital lock.
Now, I wonder how hard is it to install these locks.  Do I need to hire a 
specialist to assemble and install these kinds of locks, or I would be able to 
do it myself?  When it comes to the regular mechanical locks with keys, I 
always change them myself without hiring a Locksmith. I am not sure how hard it 
would be to install a digital lock by myself!
Cheers,
Cris

From: 
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 On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 11:56 AM
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Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?

Find out the exact model and Google it, you’ll find all the features, specs and 
most likely a user manual in PDF.
I don’t know why anybody in their right mind would want to Alexa enable a 
doorlock. Alexa has no security as far as I can tell and if somebody knows you 
have Alexa and a smart doorlock that works with it all they have to do is walk 
up to an open window and ask Alexa to unlock your door. If I want to unlock my 
Schlage Sense with SIRI it only works if I first unlock my phone with Touch Id 
or my passcode.

Regards,
Sieghard

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 On Behalf Of Kay Malmquist
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Subject: Re: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?

We have a Yale key pad lock on our door that was provided by our security 
company and I was wondering if anyone knows where we can get the users guide or 
find out more how to use it.  I don't want to have to asks the installer every 
time I want to set another code for someone.  I also want to know if they have 
an app so we don't have to wade through Alarm.com<http://alarm.com/> to try to 
find what might not be there.  I hear it is alexa enabled but don't know how to 
set that up either and neither does our installer.  I want to know if it is 
home kit capable as well.  any ideas?
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com<mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com>

Ask for what you want. Believe that you deserve it, and then allow Life to give 
it to you.

— Louise Hay
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From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 11:18 PM
Subject: RE: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and 
accessible app?

Not any more, quite a few electronic lock companies made fingerprint doorlocks 
years ago, I had one and so did a friend of mine, and they were the biggest 
pain in the neck.
Depending on how much you want to spend, you are much better off with an 
electronic lock with a keypad or a smartlock which you can unlock with your 
phone.
I have a Weiser electronic lock at my retail store which was actually installed 
by my alarm company and which has a keypad, but it also connects via the 
Zigbbee protocol to my alarm panel so I can unlock it via the alarm app 
remotely.
At home we just recently purchased a Schlage Sense smartlock which has home kit 
support. This means you can unlock it by telling SIRI “Unlock my front door” or 
from the home app. It has also a keypad, but it’s a touchscreen so you’d have 
to put at least a dot on the 5 or maybe put a tactile dot on the 1, 3, 5, 7 and 
9 to be able to use it manually.
Before we bought it we had a Schlage electronic lock on the front door and I 
really like it, too. It has a lock button at the top and underneat two rows of 
buttons, 1 to 5 and 6 to 0. The lock button is above the 3, so in the middle 
above the two number rows. This particular lock (forgot the model) doesn’t 
actually have a motor so the single 9 Volt battery lasts forever because all it 
does is to engage a deadbolt which you turn by hand to lock and unlock the 
door. Less high tech, but also completely reliable and we now moved this lock 
to our patio door.
If there are still fingerprint locks around I really advise you to stay away 
from them, if you don’t want to spend too much then you can get a lock like 
that electronic Schlage with the keypad I described for around $100 and it’s 
super-easy to use, you can program multiple codes and it’s easy  to program it 
without sight, all you need to know is the master/programming code which you 
can customize and then you of course need to write down the basic commands for 
adding or removing a code. It's usually something like enter the master code 
and press the lock button, then press 1 to add a code followed by the lock 
button, then enter a 4-digit code, press the lock button and re-enter it. This 
is just an example, but it’s that type of sequence.
I am not sure if this particular Schlage can do one-time codes, but before we 
got the smartlock at my store we had a electronic keypad lock from Tamor. That 
one you could set a mastercode anywhere from 4 to 8 digits long and user codes 
then had to be the same length which means if you think a 4-digit code might be 
too insecure this one is nice because you can do a 5 or 7 digit code which is 
more unusual. Anyhow, that one also allowed for one-time codes so if, for 
example, you wanted to give a plumber or electrician or a friend access to your 
house without giving them a permanent code, you could set up a one-time code 
and once it got used once it would no longer work. Of course with a smartlock 
this functionality is even further expanded, you can give your dog walker who 
picks up your dog every weekday between 8 and 8:30 AM a code which only works 
during that time or you could simply ask them to call you when they are at the 
door and you can then unlock the door remotely.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 8:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Door locks with fingerprint technology with Bluetooth and accessible 
app?

Hello Folks,
Since I have the tendency to lock myself out from time to time, I thought I 
should explore the possibility of getting a door lock that works on 
fingerprint.  But It must have a Bluetooth connection to the phone so that I 
can do the settings, or change them when I want to, provided that the App is 
accessible with voiceover..
Are you guys aware of any such product?

Cheers,

Cris


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