Thanks, Richard.  I do use the Samantha voice, so that’s interesting to know 
other voices may say it correctly.  With all screen readers, I find it 
interesting how different synthesizers are “taught” to say things.  Sometimes 
my synthesizer choice for Window Eyes or Jaws butchers something my iphone 
voice says correctly and sometimes it’s the  other way around.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

I just called Apple Accessibility and had the support person listen to my work 
phone's pronunciation of Emoji.
I demonstrated that the Karen voice said it correctly, but Tom and the Siri 
Female did not.
She tried it on her phone, and Samantha said it correctly.
But, since she heard mine, she will report it to the engineers.
I decided having someone hear it would be better than trying to explain it in 
writing.
But, sending in written reports certainly could help.
Later,
Richard



“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 7:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
Same here, Richard. Anyhow, let’s all report this to Apple Accessibility since 
I suspect this is not a difficult item for them to fix.


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<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 6:36 AM
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Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade


This is truly fascinating. I just installed Samantha Enhanced and it does the 
strange new pronunciation which is about 5 or 6 syllables.
So, for me, Samantha Enhanced, Tom Enhanced, and Siri Female all do this 
strange new combination of emodican and emogi sort of.
But, being in the US if I switch to Australian Karen, it uses the old familiar 
two syllable word.
This is so strange I may take the time later to call Apple Accessibility and 
have them listen to it and see what they say.
Later,
Richard



“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 6:23 AM, kelby carlson 
<kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yep, definitely on the current version.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 11, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Those who are not seeing the problem, you are using iOS 11.3, right?
This is beyond strange if you are on 11.3.

Richard



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On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:44 AM, Jerry Mader 
<maderra...@icloud.com<mailto:maderra...@icloud.com>> wrote:
I'm using the US English voice and I'm not recognizing it. I just tested it and 
it worked just fine. I'm using Alex. I also use Allison and I don't recognize 
the problem either or Samantha.
Jerry Mader. Follow my podcast by searching for the Mader cast on your App of 
choice.

On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Kelby,
Are you using a US English voice? I suspect not. If I change to the Australian 
voice, the old pronunciation is back. But, if I use either my default US 
english voice, or another US English voice, the strange pronunciation is used.
Very odd. indeed.
Richard



“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On Apr 11, 2018, at 5:24 AM, kelby carlson 
<kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
That's odd. I'm not noticing this.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:21 AM, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Apparently, Apple employees never check what these things sound like when just 
using VoiceOver. I did the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy what it was saying 
and pasted it into a note to then try spelling it out letter by letter. It is 
spelled the same as before: e m o j i.
It seems to be saying something like a combination of emodican and the old word 
emoji together.
So, if you want to change its pronunciation, you could add it to the dictionary 
under VoiceOver, Speech, pronunciations. I substituted a g for the j so it says 
emogi, which is still slightly different, but only two syllables at least.

I'd also write Apple Accessibility and tell them you want the old pronunciation 
back.
Richard





“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

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On Apr 11, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Godwin Adoyi 
<gad...@gmail.com<mailto:gad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Same here. It is strange.


Godwin Adoyi Agada
Greetings from Ghana, W. Africa.
(Sent from my iPhone)
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Subject: Re: emoticon button label since version 11.3 upgrade

I noticed the same exact thing
Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

On Apr 10, 2018, at 11:30 PM, R Van Lant 
<vanlant2...@msn.com<mailto:vanlant2...@msn.com>> wrote:
My phone upgraded to IOS 11.3 over the weekend.  I noticed today that label for 
the emoticon keyboard is now really strange.  Anyone else seen this?  I wonder 
what changed.  I can’t recall, but I think it used to clearly say “emogi 
keyboard” or something like that and now, while I can tell it’s saying 
something about emoticons, the way it says it is really strange.
Robin
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