eric!  As is my wont, I was being just a bit, such a tiny bit, tongue in 
cheekish!

        Jewel


From: Eric Oyen 
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 2:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: where am I


me? modest? surely! you must be kidding! :) 


Honestly, I can tell you I am nowhere near modest. I am not quite sure if I am 
self effacing either. Do I actually sound that way?


anyway, back to blind groups, etc. :)


-eric


On Apr 13, 2018, at 6:PM, Jewel wrote:


  Eric!  Thank the powers that you are so modest and self-effacing!

       Jewel  



  From: Eric Oyen 
  Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 3:45 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: where am I


  unfortunately, given some "features" of my psyche, some kinds of humor are 
not comprehended. :( it's part and parcel of being on the asperger's spectrum. 
It's also probably why it is that I am so good at technology related items.  


  anyway, on the technical end of things, the nearest thing I can figure on the 
daily (and always inside the same 2 hour window) is that I am seeing a 
reflection of signal off an aircraft in the aircraft control corridor that 
exists from here to california. in any case, it makes for an interesting math 
problem. :)


  -eric


  On Apr 13, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:


    That was intended to be a joke! 😯  


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    On Apr 13, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:


    um, that is not exactly the way that GPS works. In order for this "hand 
off" to occur, there would also have to be interaction from the device to the 
sats and there just isn't the spectrum space or bandwidth to handle several 
tens of millions of devices simultaneously. the gPS units on the ground are 
strictly receivers. 


    -eric


    On Apr 13, 2018, at 7:12 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:


      Given what Eric wrote about his GPS “speed of light” experience, I have 
to wonder if Eric is not sitting on the cusp of two separate satellites that 
are continually “handing off” his device to each other.  Just a thought.


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      On Apr 13, 2018, at 4:01 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com > wrote:


      you should see what happens with my phone sometimes. I will have it 
sitting here on the desk and all of the sudden, it goes into do not disturb 
mode. 

      So, I opened up one of the gPS apps I have (Navigon in this case) and 
left it run. when the Do Not Disturb popped up, I grabbed the phone and checked 
how far it allegedly moved. Here's the real kicker, for 2 minutes, it traveled 
1000 feet to the west at 672 mph, then proceeded 2000 feet to the east at 672 
mph and went back and forth like that for 3 minutes. Yet, the phone physically 
didn't move.

      The two things I noted about this:
      1. the direction was always east and west
      2. the speed of transit is always that of a jet aircraft at full cruise I 
think when it happens again, I am going to call up a friend of mine at sky 
harbor airport ops  and find out if there is any air traffic transiting the 
space above me at 30k feet going either east or west I have already checked 
with a ham radio sat tracker program I have here, so I know where the GPS sats 
are in near real time. If what I think is happening really is, then it would be 
possible to know when something is overflying my place. :)

      -Eric

      On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


        GPS accuracy is going to be about 15 feet at best and sitting inside 
does not give you good signal quality. The GPS signal is very weak, I read an 
article once where they compared it with looking at a Christmas light that is 
up on a satellite in space. Nowadays the receives are very good and sensitive, 
I remember when I first had my retail store 18 years ago and sold Garmin GPS 
units you often would not get a signal under heavy tree cover or if you were in 
a narrow valley and even nowadays the accuracy can go way down the tube if you 
are in a big city with lots of highrise building around you. GPS is fantastic, 
but you have to be aware of its limitations and factor them in.

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        From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Donald Raikes
        Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 10:07 AM
        To: viphone@googlegroups.com
        Subject: Re: where am I

        Sitting at my desk in my house, siri tells me I am next door so how 
reliable is she ;-)

        On 4/12/18, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:

          there is an app called "where the hell am I". It's free on the apple 
          appstore and it works nicely.

          Also, you can always ask the voice agent (Siri on the iPhone) your 
          location.

          -eric

          On Apr 12, 2018, at 9:42 AM, Donald Raikes wrote:


            Hi,

            This may be a "silly" question, but I figured I would ask it since 
            others may not know as well.
            When I am out taking our grand dog for a walk, I would like my 
IPhone 
            to help me determine when I am back home.  Our house is in the 
middle 
            of the block, and when I am out with my cane I count the mail boxes 
            to determine when I am at our house, but when walking the dog, she 
            doesn't allow me to count the mailboxes she just guides me arround 
            them (without any formal training).

            Also if we go a different route, and approach from accross the 
street 
            I woul d like to know when we are accross from the house.

            Is there a simple way to have my phone tell me that we are at home?

            Any tips would be appreciated.

            Don

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