I've also had very good luck with MyWeigh's kitchen scales. Their bathroom 
scale--thI had the one where you had to tap it first with your foot before 
fully stepping on to it. Anyhow, after a while, the voice readout and print 
numbers weren't matching up at all. Of course, the kitchen scale doesn't get a 
huge amount of use--it's my baking/portioning out ground meat scale, and I 
don't do those things every day.


Thanks,
Ari

> On May 14, 2018, at 8:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Cristóbal,
>  
> You must have bad luck with the My Weigh talking scales. I had my first one 
> for close to 20 years and it did not work any more at some point last 
> November. I contacted the company and they also have a partner here in Canada 
> (probably their distributor) where I sent the scale along with a money order 
> and they sent me a new one. This one is a bit different, I guess it’s the 
> newer model which doesn’t come with the plastic bowl any more, but I have 
> used it now since last November without any issues whatsoever.
>  
> I’m glad to hear the Drop scale is accessible and has the simple scale 
> function, but as you also pointed out, you would prefer a talking scale and 
> in this case so do I, having to grab the phone, unlock it, open an app and do 
> all that every time I want to weigh what might be one of 8 or 10 ingredients 
> in a cake recipe sounds like entirely too much trouble.Too bad nobody has 
> made one yet which works with Alexa.
>  
> As for the other one you mentioned I would call this a case where you get 
> what you pay for, can’t expect too much with a $20 scale. When my My Weigh 
> stopped working I initially had also ordered another talking scale from 
> Amazon, I think it was called “Jobar”, but it had a horrible voice and I 
> didn’t like how it worked.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Cristóbal
> Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 9:50 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Follow up to a posting about accessible bluetooth kitchen scales
>  
> Hello list,
>  
> Towards the end of last year, I posted a sort of query/rant about Bluetooth 
> kitchen scales and how I was having no luck with the MY Weigh Vox talking 
> scales. No matter how careful I was, the vox scales would unfailingly crap 
> out on me only after a few months at the most. At the time of that post, the 
> two of my vox scales died within days apart of each other during the 
> Christmas holidays. Being stuck without an accessible scale was not fun. That 
> and they were already replacements of replacements of replacements… My Weigh 
> did swap them out for me and at least that time, they didn’t even charge me 
> the standard $25 fee. I just had to pay shipping for both of the scales to 
> Arizona. Came out to something like $10.
> Anyway, the most recent Vox 3000 scale replacement I got towards the middle 
> of January and this time . . . it lasted all the way to mid-March…
> In the meantime, I had been checking out some Bluetooth kitchen scales for 
> accessible alternatives as it seems that My Weigh really is the only 
> manufacturer that makes talking kitchen scales that can weigh to the gram. 
> And as it appears that I’m more or less Charlie Brown when it comes to vox 
> scales, I didn’t want to continue to play the swap out game for eternity.
> I came across two Bluetooth options. The Perfect Bake 2.0 Smart Scale: 
> https://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Recipe-Kitchen-Wireless-Bluetooth/dp/B019C4PUOA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1526269584&sr=8-3&keywords=bluetooth+kitchen+scale&dpID=51EpnAj-ZTL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
>  for $20.00. as well as the Drop Scale - Connected Kitchen Scale: 
> https://www.amazon.com/Drop-Scale-Connected-Step-Step/dp/B00TTY34KG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1526268636&sr=8-1&keywords=drop+bluetooth+kitchen+scale&dpID=31UVszDTlQL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
>  which I got on sale for $56.00 from its usual $80.00. As of this posting, it 
> looks like the Drop Kitchen scale is $70.00.
> Both devices have iOS apps. The Perfect Bake Smart scale I ended up returning 
> as I found it to feel on the cheap side in regards to materials (it felt very 
> plasticky and flimsy) and the paring was kind of a hassle. I don’t recall 
> exactly the process, but I do remember not being able to figure out the 
> buttons (memory serves that there were four buttons) and ended up calling my 
> sighted wife to help me out. The app it was more or less accessible with from 
> what I was able to gather VoiceOver reading the different areas, but again, 
> the app and its layout just felt a little too busy for me.
> To be clear, both these scales and their associated apps have the main focus 
> on interactive recipes with a heavy visual element to them. You follow a 
> recipe and you can see on the display how virtual bowls and what have you 
> filling up and so on. This too added to the over all feel of the perfect bake 
> smart scale giving more of the impression of being a kid’s toy than anything 
> else. In the Perfect Bake Smart scale, there is an element where you can put 
> VO focus on and as the weight fluctuates, VO will announce the changes, but 
> it kind of gets lost with everything else on the screen. That and for me at 
> least with this model, I started to get all sorts of crazy readings into the 
> thousand of grams. I really didn’t play around with it much to see if I could 
> figure out or correct the weird readings since I knew within a couple of days 
> I wasn’t going to keep it so I just sent it back.
> As far as the Drop Kitchen scale, it’s actual feel seemed more in line with 
> its higher price. It is small (maybe 7 inches in diameter) with a rubbery 
> surface where you would put whatever bowl or plate or any other container on 
> it. There is one simple button that slightly sticks out of the side of the 
> device and is almost like a little apostrophe or comma in a visual sense that 
> you press to pare with your phone or iPad. Paring with this scale was super 
> easy. The iOS app (Drop Recipes) is fully accessible and the first time you 
> launch it, you go through a couple of prompts including the paring part which 
> was done in a snap.
> This scale like the Perfect Bake Smart scale is again, focused on recipes, 
> but what this scale has that I didn’t not come across in the Perfect Bake 
> Smart scale was a simple scale function. When you first set up the app and 
> device, the default screen is the whole busy recipe section and the different 
> steps and so on, but you can have the scale screen be your default which is 
> super clean and simple. You’ve got a menu button that says hamburger button 
> like a lot of other apps do, then there’s a heading that just says Scale, 
> after that is where the weight would be announced and it the scale is not 
> connected, VoiceOver will say not connected. If the scale is connected, then 
> you’ll have “current weight”. After that element, there’s a toggle where you 
> can switch from grams (it can measure to the tenth of the gram), to KG to 
> ounces. Double tapping it will cycle you through G, KG or OZ and lastly there 
> is a tarra button that simply says “zero”. All these fields are laid out 
> vertically.
> I ended up keeping this scale mainly due to the clean layout of the scale 
> feature. If VO focus is left on the current weight element, VO will speak the 
> weight fluctuations instantly. There was an app update a few weeks ago that 
> broke this real time announcement and it was frustrating as you had to flick 
> focus away from the current weight field and back to it to get the updated 
> reading, but the developers put out a new update a couple of weeks ago that 
> fixed it.
> To be clear, my preference is to have a simple accessible talking scale, but 
> as again, it appears I’m eternally cursed in this regard, I’ve found the Drop 
> Kitchen scale to be a satisfying solution. I don’t know if I would have 
> bought it at $80 since1) again, it’s main purpose (recipes) isn’t really 
> VoiceOver accessible, but for an actual scale, it’s completely accessible and 
> easy to use and at $56.00 it felt a little more reasonable. Since I was 
> spending money on shipping vox scales back and forth every couple of months 
> anyway.
> That and I had also written both companies about their VoiceOver 
> accessibility. The Perfect Bake Smart scale folks gave the standard “we’ll 
> take it into consideration” whereas the Drop Kitchen people wrote me back 
> expressing their willingness  to improve on the recipe aspect, but were 
> skeptical on how it could be done since again, there’s a large visual element 
> to it, but they also took the time to check on whether VO spoke the weight 
> measurements in real time and also mentioned that one of the support staff’s 
> sibling is blind and uses it.
> I’m fairly confident that the app will continue to be accessible and as has 
> already been demonstrated, if something gets broken, it’ll get fixed.
> The Drop Kitchen scale site is: https://www.getdrop.com/ if anyone wants to 
> check it out. It seems they also support other appliances, but I’m not in the 
> market for an oven or anything so I have no idea about accessibility for any 
> of those other items. 2)
> One complaint I’ve read about the Drop Kitchen scale is that the battery dies 
> fast and as it’s a particularly unique battery which you have to write the 
> company for, but I’m going on two months with this scale without any issues 
> so we’ll see.
> Cristóbal
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