The three finger double tap does not unload VoiceOver, it just turns off 
speech, but you still would have to use the gestures of VoiceOver like double 
tapping to activate something.
If you ever need to unload VoiceOver, just tell Siri to "turn off VoiceOver" 
and when you want it back, just tell Siri "turn on VoiceOver."

HTH,
Richard




“The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.”

- Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1

On May 19, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Carolyn Arnold 
<4carol...@windstream.net<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net>> wrote:

I'm not having any problem that I can tell with it this way, and I really don't 
want to turn Voice Over off, although, I know I can get it back easily with 
that three-finger double tap. That works just fine, so I never have made that 
short cut. Why wear out the home button, when I can just do a little tap tap to 
get the job done?

Best regards,

Carolyn

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kitty hevener
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 7:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Dictating new phone contact.

Not sure, but am guessing you would have to unlock.  Would turning off 
voiceover solve the problem then turning it back on when he is done?

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 3:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Dictating new phone contact.

If I do that, would it have to be unlocked to get it into Landscape? I have no 
idea why I would want to, but my husband does sometimes. Of course, he has his 
own smart phone.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Dictating new phone contact.

If you go at the top of your screen, where it should say the time you do a 
three finger flick down and it should put you in the notification area, then 
you keep flicking right until you here lock orientation.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 19, 2018, at 2:20 PM, Carolyn Arnold 
<4carol...@windstream.net<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net>>
wrote:

Where do you go to do that, somewhere in settings, I would think?

Best regards,

Carolyn


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of kitty hevener
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Dictating new phone contact.

Agree with him.  Carolyn, if you haven't done it already, you may find
it helpful to lock the orientation on your phone.  It just keeps
controls in the same view, portrait or landscape.  Until I did that, I
was literally all over the phone and getting frustrated that none of
the controls were ever in the same place smile!!

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Dictating new phone contact.

Once I get gestures down, then it's keyboard time. My husband says
I'll do better to master one thing at a time.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of kitty hevener
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 1:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Dictating new phone contact.

carolyn, it took me a while to get used to the flicking and other
gestures.
So, hang in there, it eventually does get better smile!!

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Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 12:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Dictating new phone contact.

Id does make sense, and I am begging to catch on to flicking. Thanks,
Kitty.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of kitty hevener
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 10:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Dictating new phone contact.

Hi Carolyn, I think you have to get in to the field first and then
dictate the info for that field.  So, if you wanted to enter someone's
last name, you would have to flick right till you find "last name"
field.  When u find it, do a single finger double tap then activate
the dictation button, say name, and deactivate dictation button.  Make sense?

-----Original Message-----
From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 10:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Dictating new phone contact.

Thank you, Kitty. I did finally get it on with help from a nice lady,
Regina at Apple Accessibility. Now, here's what I'm not getting is
when I press it, do I say first or first and last name; then do I double tap?
Then can I dictate the number or dial it? Thanks, Kitty.

I live in Sanford, NC, and just abouteveryone I know here (sighted)
have iPhones.

Best regards,

Carolyn


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of kitty hevener
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 8:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Dictating new phone contact.

Hi Carolyn, Just wanted to introduce myself and help you get dictation
going.  I am Kitty in cincinnati oh.  I have bee using iphone since
sept or oct.  It sounds like you are getting the “enable dictation”
error because dictation is not turned on.  To enable it, open settings
and double tap on general.  From there, swipe or flick right till you
come to keyboard.
Double tap on it.  Move to the right till u see enable dictation.
Double tap on it.  Once it has been enabled, it will stay on till u
change the setting.  Let me know how it works for you.
From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 3:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Dictating new phone contact.


I went to contacts and got to add, then to dictation, and it said
enable dictation. What do I do to enable dictation. I double tapped
and tried to find something. My friend said her phone did not say that.







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