Just one comment regarding PC form factors. You mentioned you found a 
horizontal desktop case and I mention this in case Reggie might consider a PC 
again. You can get so-called mini PC's from a number of manufacturers, Intel, 
Asus, HP are just some. These are basically desktops which you can get with 
full I3, I5 or I7 desktop processors, most support at least 16 and more often 
32Gb of RAM and they have room for 1 or 2 SSD's. They are the size of a Mac 
Mini or in some cases maybe just a tiny bit larger, but still very small more 
or less square boxes with HDMI and/or DVI monitor outputs, usually 4 rear USB 
and two front, of course RJ45 ethernet as well as wireless and bluetooth modems 
and a 3.5mm combination headphone/microphone jack. In the case of the HP 
EliteDesk mini PC's they even have very basic built-in speakers, but they are 
not very loud. Some of these like the Intel NUC (it stands for next unit of 
computing) come with wall-mount brackets and I really like these little PC's, 
they are as powerful as you want them to be and they are small and silent. 
Sometimes when the fan really kicks in on my HP units you can hear it, but not 
usually.
Here in Canada these sell for usually around $600 to $900 depending on how much 
RAM, how large anSSD and so on. You can buy cheaper desktops and laptops in the 
price range, but if you want a quality desktop in a very small form factor then 
these are great.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Radic
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 2:39 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: what to replace a couple devices with

Hi, there!

Some people already said some good things, Sieghard made some nice points and 
here's my point of view.

First of all, I'm 42 year old and I started using PC when I was 20 in 1996. I 
got my first dumb cellphone at age of 23 in 1999.

I actually spent first half of my life using landline phone and some overgrown 
calculators such as ZX Spectrum or Commodore 64. When I started to use PC I 
used it for almost everything. Web browsing, email, chat, VOIP telephony, 
writing and reading documents, whatching movies, listening to music, whatever 
you can think of. There was a time when I was using my PC as alarm clock xD.

I started to use smartphones as of 2004. or something and I got my first iPhone 
on 2012. I have to say I use my iPhone to some level but if I need to do some 
serious writting, some extended websearch, even for reading 50 emails or more 
I'd rather sit in front of my desk and turn my PC on. Maybe this is easier for 
sighted folks to acomplish on small touch screen but I'm pretty much bounded if 
I can't use keyboard with all ten fingers.

For some years now I was using iPhone and Windows laptop but since I'm 
passionate music listener some months ago I purchased Minix Windows box and 
connected it to my TV and HiFi system. I wasn't satisfied with performance, it 
was to slow using Windows 10 and Jaws on just 2 gigs of RAM so I replaced it 
with serious desktop machine with I5, 8 gigs of RAM and SSD. Of course, I found 
horizontal desktop case and put it in my living room below the TV set. Now I 
have a decent multimedia player, have my screen reader talk through HDMI and TV 
speakers while other sound plays through HiFi system.

I turned my dumb Grundig TV into a smart one xD. i could use something from iOS 
family like old iPad or iPod touch for this purpose and I tried but it was not 
so comfortable. I have to say I never learned to use iOS with a keyboard and I 
have 14 years of experience with Jaws and later NVDA so this was also one of 
the reasons I decided to get this PC instead of some iOS device. Before Minix I 
tried Apple TV but I got very disapointed with its capabilities. I wanted to be 
able to browse the web and read email but there's no such thing on Apple TV.

Maybe I should have go for Mac Mini instead of Windows desktop, the price was 
more less the same, I don't know but I don't have the time to learn new system 
and new screen reader and on the other hand Windows and Jaws are part of me for 
more than twenty years.

So, the answer is I like my iPhone, as a matter of fact I can't live without it 
but still can't use it as the one and only computing device. 
Maybe this is because I'm, old fashionned, maybe because I'm not using keyboard 
with iOS but this is my experience.

P.S. There's not a single chance in a million years I would write this long 
email using virtual keyboard, even on BSI or MBraille xD.


S poštovanjem

Gordan Radić

01.08.2018 u 23:05, regina alvarado je napisao/la:
> I know this is an individual preference, but here is a question for 
> consideration. OK, OK, may be a couple questions. LOL.
>
> I am interested in whether anyone only uses a mobile device and never a 
> computer, is that possible. I have a Mac Mini, but I never use it. if I 
> decided to trade in my Mac Mini, what would I replace it with? If another 
> computer, which Apple? If not, what device besides my phone should I 
> consider; an Apple watch or a trade-in on an iPad Air? To what? Most 
> interested in a laptop if a computer with a small screen. Thanks for any 
> thoughts.
>
>
> Reggie and Lex
> God said, "I need somebody strong enough to pull sleds and find bombs, yet 
> gentle enough to love babies and lead the blind. Somebody who will spend all 
> day on a couch with a resting head and supportive eyes to lift the spirits of 
> a broken heart." So God made a dog.
>

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