you have to turn off that attention feature, or maybe when using voice over it's auto turned off I forget.
On 9/15/18, Robert Wright <yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Out of curiosity how does Face ID work with persons who have prostetics > instead of living eyes? > > character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for > you! *** > > From: Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 11:11 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Mark's iPhone Prediction, and some Info on In-Display > FingerprintTechnology > > Hi Mark, > > Interesting and I wouldn't be surprised at all that if an under the display > fingerprint sensor is developed which works truly well and fast that it > would be Apple who will release it. > The question is whether Apple sees the need for it given their fantastic > Face Id feature which is in its second generation apparently very fast, much > safer than fingerprint and more reliable. > Of course if one day we had an iPhone with a very reliable and fast under > the display fingerprint sensor as well as Face Id so that you could choose > whichever method you want or even use both interchangeably than that would > be awesome. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M. > Taylor > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 6:05 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Mark's iPhone Prediction, and some Info on In-Display Fingerprint > Technology > > Hello Everyone, > > This post consist of three parts: > > In the first part, I re-post my comments, posted on Saturday, September 1, > 2018, regarding this year's iPhone releases. > > In the second part, I post an article from The Verge, in which a writer > describes his first experience using an in-display fingerprint sensor. > > Finally, in the third part, I post an article that describes how in-display > fingerprint sensor technology works. > > So, read on, and enjoy. > > Part 1: > From Mark, Posted, September 1, 2018, sent to Mac Visionaries: > > ". Okay, as for the upcoming iOS devices? > > I think that many companies will be adopting under-the-screen fingerprint > reading technology. If Apple adds this feature to this year's phones, I'll > be delighted and will probably buy one. However, if, as I strongly > suspect, > they do not include the new finger print technology and completely remove > Touch ID from the new devices, then I'll stay pat with my 8 Plus as I > really > do love this phone. I strongly suspect that the 8 series will continue to > be sold for those who are not ready/willing to abandon Touch ID. > > Perhaps, next year, then, the new finger print reading technology will be > ready for Apple primetime. > > Just my opinion, of course. > > Mark" > > Part 2: > I tried the first phone with an in-display fingerprint sensor, The Verge > > I tried the first phone with an in-display fingerprint sensor > By Vlad Savov > > After an entire year of speculation about whether Apple or Samsung might > integrate the fingerprint sensor under the display of their flagship > phones, > it is actually China's Vivo that has gotten there first. At CES 2018, I got > to grips with the first smartphone to have this futuristic tech built in, > and I was left a little bewildered by the experience. > The mechanics of setting up your fingerprint on the phone and then using it > to unlock the device and do things like authenticate payments are the same > as with a traditional fingerprint sensor. The only difference I experienced > was that the Vivo handset was slower - both to learn the contours of my > fingerprint and to unlock once I put my thumb on the on-screen fingerprint > prompt - but not so much as to be problematic. Basically, every other > fingerprint sensor these days is ridiculously fast and accurate, so with > this being newer tech, its slight lag feels more palpable. > The biggest unfulfilled promise of 2017 is becoming a reality in 2018 > Vivo is using a newly announced Synaptics optical sensor, which has been in > development for years. It works by peering through the gaps between the > pixels in an OLED display (LCDs wouldn't work because of their need for a > backlight) and scanning your uniquely patterned epidermis. This is likely > the tech that Synaptics and Samsung were collaborating on for the Galaxy S8 > for last year, right up until it became apparent that it wouldn't be ready > in time for the phone's release. Things are different now, as Vivo is close > to announcing this as-yet-unnamed phone properly and Synaptics is already > in > mass production with the so-called Clear ID sensor. > The uncanny thing for me with this phone is how obvious and immediately > intuitive the in-display fingerprint system is. This 6-inch phone has the > minimal bezels of something like the OnePlus 5T, but it also happens to > unlock when I put my finger at the bottom of its screen. The technological > aspect is just totally invisible and, if you're not paying attention to how > challenging this is technically, it feels almost pedestrian and > unimpressive. Like, of course, that's how it always should have been. > > Original Article at: > https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/1/9/16867536/vivo-fingerprint-r > eader-integrated-display- > > Part 3: > In-Screen Fingerprint Reader Explained: Here's Everything You Need to Know > > In-Screen Fingerprint Reader Explained: Here's Everything You Need to Know > By Omar Sohail > > Apple's iPhone 5s started the whole smartphone biometrics saga with the > introduction of Touch ID. The fingerprint scanner element is now > ubiquitous, > embedded in home buttons, mounted on the back side of mobile phones and > even > placed on the side beneath the home button of handsets. Naturally, the > development of faster and more accurate fingerprint readers led to the > makings of newer ways of unlocking your smartphone. > This includes facial recognition like Face ID and something that we will be > discussing in detail today; the in-screen fingerprint reader. As we see > more > high screen-to-body ratio smartphones getting released, a consequence of > this action is the where to put the fingerprint reader, which is often > moved > to the back of the phone to compensate for those 'all screen' handsets. > Related Nokia 9 to Be First Flagship From HMD Global to Ship With an > in-Glass Fingerprint Scanner > However, having an in-screen fingerprint reader will forego this change and > we will explain what its internals are like and what are the possibilities > for the future of smartphones. > Synaptics Hard at Work With Its Clear ID FS9500 Intended for High-End > Smartphones > Synaptics and Vivo have this long-term partnership that enabled the making > of the Clear ID FS9500, which is an optical sensor that can be placed > beneath the display of the smartphone. In short, it is an optical sensor, > or > a CMOS sensor, the kind that you find in regular or smartphone cameras. In > order for it to work, there are going to have to be some requirements. > > Related Samsung's Galaxy S9 Will Not Tout a Fingerprint Sensor Underneath > the Display - Different Manufacturer Will Get That Privilege > The display on the smartphone needs to be an OLED panel, which is why you > are only going to find it on devices that are touting OLED screens and that > can only mean that for now, high-end phones will come bearing this security > addition. Goodix is also working to bring in-display fingerprint scanners > to > manufacturers so more suppliers also mean that companies will be able to > negotiate better pricing for this component. > How Does the in-Screen Fingerprint Reader Work? > When you hold up the phone, the fingerprint sensor indicator will light up, > meaning that you can now unlock your smartphone using this part of the > biometrics. According to videos seen online, it is definitely slower than > regular fingerprint readers so improved iterations of the scanner will have > to be introduced to make it faster. This is possibly the reason why Samsung > might have refused to incorporate this sensor on the Galaxy S9 and Galaxy > S9 > Plus. > > As thin as it might be to fit inside the display, it is quite slow, and > though it is present at an 'easy to reach' location, users will definitely > complain about the speed problems. Coming back to unlocking the device, > after you have placed your fingerprint on the scanner, a light will shine > on > the sensor to capture your fingerprint and unlock the smartphone. However, > this is just the beginning of such sensors because it does not have to be > located in a single region on the phone. > What Are the Possibilities of the in-Display Fingerprint Scanner for Future > Smartphones? > As we said before, the sensor does not have to be placed at a single > location. During the announcement of the Vivo APEX, which is honestly the > first glimpse into the future of what bezel-less smartphones will look > like, > it too features an in-glass fingerprint reader, but here's the catch. > The bottom half of the phone is covered by this CMOS sensor, which the > company is calling it the 'Half-Screen Fingerprint Scanning Technology'. > This means that you place your finger anywhere at the bottom half and if > your fingerprint is registered, the phone will unlock seamlessly. > > This development also means that there is a future where we might get to > see > smartphones with their entire displays being covered with the sensor. > All you will have to do is whip it out, place your finger anywhere and > immediately, the phone will be unlocked. That is certainly a future that we > will look forward to witnessing but for that specific future to materialize > and become a reality, better versions of the fingerprint are going to have > to be released. > > Original Article at: > https://wccftech.com/in-screen-fingerprint-reader-explained/ > > Mark > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. 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