They should have made this standard last year. I mean come on you release a macbook with only usb C and then don't make it so your phones can plug right in. Also fast chargers should totally come in the box.
On 9/23/18, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > Hi Carolyn, > > No, you don't have to buy an extra cable or charger unless you want to plug > your iPhone into an Apple laptop for charging and here it has to be one > which came out in the last couple of years since they only have a USB-C port > so you either need an adapter or a separate cable. You would also need said > USB-C cable along with a USB-C type wall charger if you want to use Apple's > fast charger technology, if you have those two items (that I think is where > the $70 comes from) then you apparently can charge one of the new iPhones > from 0 to 50% in half an hour. > Apart from that all new iPhones still come with the familiar cable you > already own with the Lightning plug on one end to plug into your phone and > with a traditional USB-A type connector on the other end. This one can be > plugged into any Windows laptop or desktop for charging or syncing and in a > gazillion wall chargers which you can buy everywhere. > Of course if you are not buying a new phone for another year or two chances > are by then that a USB-C cable will be standard with all iPhones. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Carolyn Arnold > Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:15 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, > Business Insider > > So, if I replaced my phone, I'd have to buy a cable, and it would be $70? > That being the case, why wouldn't I, before purchasing phone buy cable, > charger, and connecter for magnetic cable from Accessible electronics for > $11.99 for a three foot one or $13.99 for a five foot one> I am asking this, > because I really want to know for down the road. Does the XR have a cable? > > Best regards, > > Carolyn > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 4:38 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, > Business Insider > > My guess is that is is less an oversight than a business decision and that > Apple knows by not including a USB-C to Lightning cable they can make > another few Million in profits since people will of course buy them. > It also means accessory manufacturers who also make such cables and adapters > are also happy. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M. > Taylor > Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2018 12:25 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Apple should have included a USB-C cable with the new iPhone, > Business Insider > > Apple's big bet on the future of USB is increasingly looking like a rare > misfire By Matt Weinberger > > Starting in 2016, the MacBook Pro ditched separate charging and display > ports, and whittled everything down to two USB-C ports. Apple AAPL Apple > 217.66 -2.37 (-1.10 %) > Disclaimer Get real-time AAPL charts here > > . Apple's newest MacBook Pro laptops got rid of the separate ports for > charging and accessories, and instead whittled it down to two USB-C ports. > . USB-C is hyped as the replacement for regular-old USB, also known as > USB Type-A. It can handle charging, plugging in external monitors, and any > and all other kinds of accessories from a single cable. It's neat! > . But also, it means that you have to buy pricey, annoying dongles if > you want to plug in any of the existing flash drives, mice, keyboard, or > other gadgetry you already own. It's frustrating! > . Ultimately, it's hard to take Apple's big bet on USB-C seriously > when not even its own iPhones come with a USB-C cable. That's right: You > can't connect a new iPhone to a MacBook or MacBook Pro without shelling out > for a new cable or adapter. > . It's an annoying oversight from a company that's known for nailing > the details. > A few months ago, our I.T. department sent me a mid-2017 model MacBook Pro > to replace my fast-aging MacBook Air. > To catch you up, Apple gave its premium, top-shelf MacBook Pro lineup a > controversial new design starting in 2016. Its keyboard was flimsy and prone > to breaking (hasn't happened to me yet, and largely fixed by a new model in > 2018); some versions sported a strange Touch Bar above the keyboard (mine > doesn't have one); and, worst of all, it replaced the traditional USB ports > with the new, cutting-edge USB-C (the bane of my existence). > Yes, it's the last one that really gets under my skin. Starting with the > 2016 MacBook Pro, Apple took out the charging port, the mini-HDMI port, and > indeed everything but a headphone jack, and replaced it with nothing more > than two USB-C ports. It could be worse, though: The regular MacBook only > gets a single USB-C port. > It's easy to see where Apple was going with this move. USB-C offers many > benefits over regular USB (which, by the way, is officially called USB-A) - > it means that the same cable can be used for charging, for plugging in a > monitor, or attaching any number of other accessories. And it sidesteps the > most annoying thing about USB: The connector plugs in no matter which side > is facing up. It's elegant in a way that feels very Apple-y, for lack of a > better term. > It also means that any USB-C charger can work with any USB-C gadget. When > I'm traveling, I don't need to pack a separate charger for my Nintendo > Switch - my MacBook Pro charger will power it up just fine. (I mean, I pack > a separate Switch charger anyway, but that's because I'm neurotic, not > because I have to.) If you have a phone or tablet that charges via USB-C, > like a Google Pixel 2 or Microsoft Surface Go, you'd be able to charge it > from there, too. > This is the gear you would neat to give your iPhone the fastest possible > charge. The cable on the right connects USB-C to Lightning - the kind of > cable you'd need to connect an iPhone to the newest MacBook Pro line. Apple > It's not unusual for Apple to get out ahead of the curve on new standards > like this. The original iMac caught a ton of flack in the '90s for not > including a floppy disk drive, but that turned out to be the right move, as > the rise of the internet, re-writable CDs, and USB flash drives combined to > make them quickly obsolete. > This time, though, Apple may have outsmarted itself. Because while a handful > of gadget-makers, like Google and Nintendo, have pushed boldly into the > USB-C future, the rest of the world still runs on good ol' reliable USB-A. > If you want to plug in your existing mouse and keyboard into the MacBook > Pro, you still need some kind of adapter, hub, or dongle. It's what > gadget-heads have dubbed "dongle hell," as plugging in everyday accessories > becomes a headache. > Indeed, the largest sign that USB-C just isn't quite ready for prime-time > comes from Apple itself. > Apple's newest phones, the iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max, do not include a > USB-C cable, or a fast-charging power adapter with which to use one. That > means if you buy Apple's most expensive new iPhone, which starts at $1,000, > you can't use it with Apple's most expensive MacBook Pro without buying a > new cable, or at least, an annoying dongle. All told, an Apple-branded USB-C > cable, and a fast-charging wall plug to go with it, will run you another > $70. > It's not the end of the world; I have to imagine that most iPhone owners > charge from the wall anyway, or at least own a computer that still has an > original-recipe USB port. > Still, it's a surprising oversight from Apple, which loves to boast about > how well the iPhone and Mac work together. Software like iMessage and Photos > works seamlessly across phone and computer, but a single cable, not in the > box, makes it that much harder to connect the hardware. > Maybe Apple is once ahead ahead of the curve, and USB-C will be the dominant > standard everywhere before too long. Ultimately, though, it's hard to take > seriously Apple's implicit claims that the USB-C future is upon us, when not > even its own megalithic iPhone business seems to believe it. > Of course, if you want to be cynical, you might point out the hesitance to > go all-in on USB-C is because Apple owns the standard for Lightning, the > current cable standard in the iPhone and iPad - meaning that Apple does a > brisk business in licensing the technology to accessory manufacturers, not > to mention its own wide range of cables and adapter it offers for sale. > > Original Article at: > https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-macbook-pro-iphone-usb-c-2018-9 > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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