So, I realize we are mostly talking about the Orbit, but I wondered what 
ever happened with the Braille Me.  I really liked the looks of it but only 
got a short chance to play with them both.  I like the cursor routing keys 
on the Braille Me and honestly thought that might be the way to go.  I am 
curious to hear what anyone has to say on this.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Richard Turner
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 11:22 PM
  Subject: Re: Braille displays


  The MPower will probably not be supported by the newer computers/screen 
Readers.
  There is perhaps one or two displays with autoscroll, but then you are 
talking $2500 or more.
  From everything I've read, the Orbit Reader 20 is the best display for the 
money, $449 plus shipping.
  It uses an SD card for reading books, or connects via bluetooth to mobile 
devices or computers that have bluetooth, or USB cable to a computer.
  I do not know about NVDA, but I believe it works with Jaws, though it may 
need to be in a mode where you only get 18 cells unless Freedom Scientific 
has an updated driver for it.
  You can read more about it by searching for the Orbit Reader user guide on 
the American Printing House web site: www.aph.org


  Richard





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  On Oct 22, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Yohandy Rodriguez <[email protected]> 
wrote:


    Hey guys,
    I mostly lurk on this list, however Braille displays are something I've 
been interested in purchasing for quite a while now. They're very useful if 
one is left without speech, which happened to me a couple months back. it 
was a nightmare to fix without one. I'm also interested in reading off a 
display, as Braille books are way too bulky. with that said, which would you 
guys recommend that's relatively cheap? I've seen the displays go for 
thousands, which is a little insane. Is the orbit reader the cheapest 
display on the market? does it work with all screen readers like Jaws and 
NVDA< and does it work on mobile devices as well? what's the speed on it, 
and do you guys know of any displays that will auto scroll? that is, will 
detect the position of your hands on the display and scroll accordingly? is 
that a thing? if not, it definitely should be. having to press a button 
repeatedly to scroll is a little crazy. I have a device with a built in 
display, really old device, the Braillenote MPower. I've no idea how to go 
about connecting the device to a computer though. I think it used a serial 
connection if I'm not mistaken, it was a while back. I still have the device 
here so if you guys know if those old devices will work, and a way to use 
them on modern operating systems, let me know. thanks so much for your help! 
tc all






    On 10/22/2018 9:03 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

      Since the refreshabraille was mentioned, I checked to see what the 
price is now. It is the same as always, $1695 for 18 cells, no internal 
memory or stand-alone functions.
      Orbit Reader, $449 for 20-cells and an SD card for onboard storage. 
Both getting good reviews now.
      Richard





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      On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:12 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
wrote:


        The BI-14 has 8GB of on board storage and there is a local mode for 
storing information on the unit only with nothing being transferred to your 
iPhone or other device through your e-mail. It is really a nice unit 
overall.



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        From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
Of kitty hevener
        Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 1:56 PM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: Braille displays



        can u leave notes on brailliant forever?  How much storage space on 
it?  If u don’t want notes to go to I phone, does it have an sd card slot or 
usb port where u could transfer files from brailliant to other device?



        From: Ed Worrell

        Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 3:31 PM

        To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone

        Subject: Re: Braille displays



        Hey Anthony,



        To answer your questions.



        1. Yes it can be used as a stand alone notetaker. The interesting 
part of this function is there is two modes for the Brailliant

        A. Bluetooth mode - this is when the device is connected to the 
iPhone or iPad. This will allow you to use the Braille display to control 
every aspect of the I

        Device. So you could use the iDevice and another app for note taking 
tasks.



        B. Offline mode - This allows you to use the device as a stand alone 
notetaker. There is a simple interface to navigate files, and there is a 
clock and stop watch in this mode as well.



        Note - To switch between these modes there is a physical switch on 
the back of the device. To sync the notes that have been taken with the 
notetaker functions you will have to flip the switch on the back of the 
device to bluetooth mode and the braille display will sync with the 
companion app on your iOS device. You must be signed in with an iCloud 
account or Gmail account to have it sync. If you are signed in with your 
iCloud account it will sync notes with the Notes application that is now on 
all of Apple's operating systems. You then can edit, print or view them from 
your iPad, iPhone and Mac. It’s a really cool feature. All of your notes 
that are saved in the Notes Application will be synced back and forth 
between your iDevices and the Brailliant 14. This is the feature that really 
sells me on the device.





        HTH



        Ed Worrell





          On Oct 22, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Anthony Vece <[email protected]> 
wrote:



          Hi Ed;
          Does the brailliant 14 have note taking capabilities? If it does 
notcan you use notetaking capabilities on the iPhone as a substitute? 
Also,is there anyway to put files on the brailliant 14 so that it could 
possibly be used as a standalone device? thank you Anthony



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          On Oct 22, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Ed Worrell <[email protected]> 
wrote:

            Hello,



            I am a HumanWare Brailliant 14 user and I love it. Before I had 
the Brailliant 14 I was using the Freedom Scientific Focus 14 (This was on 
loan from a program in my state). I found this braille display to have 
amazing braille but there were just simply too many buttons on the device. I 
am loving the simplicity of the Brailliant 14. As you said in your email 
every person has their preferences for braille displays.



            HTH





            Ed Worrell



              On Oct 20, 2018, at 3:16 AM, Robert Wright 
<[email protected]> wrote:



              What I find interesting about what I read about the Orbit is 
that it has the same features as the HIMS BrailleEdge 40.



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              From: [email protected]
              Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:25 PM
              To: [email protected]
              Subject: RE: Braille displays



              We have an orbit reader and absolutely love it. It has no 
fancy bells and whistles but displays Braille beautifully and pairs 
beautifully with phones so I hear though we don't do that. It won't scroll 
but will take any braille file you put in it.





              -----Original Message-----

              From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
Behalf Of Susie Stageberg

              Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 6:18 PM

              To: [email protected]

              Subject: RE: Braille displays



              Hello Lelia. My condolences.



              I have a Brailliant 14 for my phone. You do have to pan, and 
since It only has 14 cells, the speech is usually ahead of how fast the 
Braille displays. But I really like it. I tried the new BrailleMe from a 
company in  India and could never get it to pair with the phone. I have seen 
a demo of something called El Braille from Freedom Scientific, or whatever 
they are calling themselves now, and it is really cool---it's a Windows 10 
tablet dressed up to look like a notetaker.



              But on my desktop I use an Alva Satellite 570,  which I bought 
used. So I am not the source of the latest and greatest. Of course the Alva 
will have nothing to do with the phone. (grin)



              Hope you can find something that will work well for you. 
Braille with the computer has become so essential to me that I can't imagine 
trying to do without it.



              Susie





              -----Original Message-----

              From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lelia Struve

              Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:26 PM

              To: Viphone

              Subject: Braille displays



              Well, this is a very sad day. My braille display said goodbye 
to me. I shocked it and I shocked it goodbye. So there is a few things that 
I am wondering, do  any braille displays automatically pan to the next page 
or line or do you have to manually do that with all of them? Another thing I’m 
wondering is if anyone has used many braille displays which do you think is 
the best for you?  I do realize that what is best for one is it best for 
all. I am just wondering.



              Lelia



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