Ah Sieghard,
Many many years ago I set up iTunes to work with my 4 S.  Yes, that is how I 
got the music on to that phone along with several ring tones.  Then came a 
time when iTunes became less and les friendly and I quit using iTunes.  I 
have never even set up this 6 S to use with iTunes and don't foresee doing 
this any time soon.  So, that is how my music got on the 4 S.  I do have an 
iStick and use that with my 6 S.  I also need to get Waltr 2 set up on my 
Windows 7 machine, but haven't done that as of yet.
Kay Malmquist
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 10:35 AM
  Subject: RE: a music question


  If you ask nicely an Apple Store may do it for you.

  What I wonder is how you got the music to your 4S in the first place since 
you can only download it from  the iTunes store in which case  you bought it 
there or you had to transfer it using iTunes (the software) in which case 
you should have the music on your computer and it would be an easy thing to 
sync it to your 6S again using iTunes.



  Regards,

  Sieghard



  From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
  Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 8:31 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: RE: a music question



  Russ,



  There is a program called WALTR 2 that will let you transfer music and 
other media from your computer to your iDevice without using iTunes but I 
don't know if it lets you go the other direction from iDevice to computer. 
WALTR 2 is accessible but it costs $40 USD and can be read about here:



  https://softorino.com/waltr/



  I believe there are also programs that will let you transfer music from an 
iDevice to a computer but I don't know their names or how accessible they 
are.



  Alan Lemly



  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne
  Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 8:12 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: a music question



  Aren’t there third party programs that will allow you to copy the music 
from your iphone to your computer?



  From: Kay Malmquist

  Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 11:18 AM

  To: [email protected]

  Subject: Re: a music question



  Well, on that old 4S I think it can not be updated and is still on 9 point 
something.  The only things that show up there are apple sign in and to give 
you an idea of how far back this goes, iTunes Match.  The 6 S already has 
iCloud turned on so the problem is with the 4 S.  I'll monkey with it and 
see what I can do.



  Kay Malmquist
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    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Donna

    To: [email protected]

    Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 1:02 PM

    Subject: Re: a music question



    Are you using IOS 12.0.1? In IOS 12.0.1 in Settings, music, here is what 
is said...iCloud Music On Access music in your Library using iCloud, 
including songs, albums, and playlists from Apple Music. Changes you make to 
your Library will sync across all your devices.



    Donna


    On Oct 25, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Kay Malmquist <[email protected]> 
wrote:

      There is no ability to turn on iCloud in settings under music.  You 
can sign out of Apple but no iCloud anything there.



      Kay Malmquist
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        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Donna

        To: [email protected]

        Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2018 5:49 AM

        Subject: Re: a music question



        Hi

        Go to settings & swipe down to music & turn on iCloud.



        Donna


        On Oct 24, 2018, at 8:36 PM, Kay Malmquist <[email protected]> 
wrote:

          In settings where?  The phone?  IN iTunes?  I'm not sure what you 
mean.  I'm not sure if this would help.  I loaded that music way back when 
and I haven't used iTunes since then and never plan to.

          Kay Malmquist
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            ----- Original Message ----- 

            From: Jennie Facer

            To: [email protected]

            Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 6:19 PM

            Subject: Re: a music question



            In settings, there is a setting that asks you if you want to 
play your iCloud library. Make sure you have that on. Now I can listen to 
all of the music I have purchased and all my music I have uploaded to my 
computer. Hope this helps.



            Jenn

            Jenn and Kumi


            On Oct 24, 2018, at 1:23 PM, Richard Turner 
<[email protected]> wrote:



              The short answer is no, you have to use iTunes.

              The long answer is also no.

              You would need to be sure that all your music from the 4s is 
in the iTunes Media, music folder and then you would have to be sure that 
sync all music is selected in iTunes when you sync your new phone.

              Richard





              "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in 
touch with it." — Jane Wagner




              On Oct 24, 2018, at 9:26 AM, Kay Malmquist 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                Hi all,

                ON my old iPhone 4 S I have music in the music app.  When I 
switched to the 6 S the only music that was transferred was an album that I 
bought from the iTunes store.  How do I transfer the other music that is 
still on my 4 S?  Please, without using iTunes.  Is there some way I can 
upload them to the iCloud and then have my 6S grab them?  Thanks for any 
help.



                Kay Malmquist
                [email protected]



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