Fair enough, but I guess there are some who would actually believe this. Now is 
that crazy or what? :)

On Sep 27, 2012, at 7:08 AM, Rob Harris <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> I know I know, I was speculating  on the bit described between going early 
> as-is and going late, done right;  this was the last thread we were looking 
> at.  I don't normally bother explaining tongue.in.cheek jokes.
> 
> R!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Scott Howell" <scottn3...@gmail.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back
> 
> 
> Oh don't' be ridiculous! The sex of the CEO would have nothing to do with 
> the success or perception there of. The CEO depends on those in marketing to 
> promote the product and depends on the engineers and designers to create the 
> "wow" factor. People tend to set certain expectations and if APple fails to 
> meet those expectations, then APple is considered to no longer be 
> innovative. Innovation is a double edged sword and APple has created a 
> "damned if you do and damned if you don't" world for themselves. Do not 
> forget that there are varying degrees of innovation as well. I think maybe 
> this version of the iPhone was more innovative in terms of design and 
> changes to the internal hardware. The OS brought a lot of changes, but many 
> were not necessarily innovative or revolutionary as evolutionary. The other 
> manufacturers are finally catching up and trying to innovate as APple has 
> for years. THe problem is some of these competitors are bringing untried 
> technologies to the table such as NFC which has a rather low adoption rate 
> at this point and some real security issues that have yet to be addressed. 
> So, neat stuff, but not ready for primetime either. Also keep in mind that 
> APple tends to see how folks react to some of these new technologies and may 
> not be the first to put it out there, but will ensure once they do it works 
> better than ever.
> Lots of things to take into consideration, so you cannot just look at one 
> thing and oh the sex of the CEO just is not a real factor.
> 
> On Sep 27, 2012, at 4:19 AM, Rob Harris <bobs...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
>> This is a guy and gal thing;  a guy will be on time even if he has to come
>> as he is;  a gal will be late and insist on arriving looking her best. 
>> You
>> only get one shot to make the right impression, iOs6 might have done the 
>> guy
>> thing instead of the gal thing. If apple got themselves a woman CEO, I
>> wonder if this would be the result?
>> 
>> R!
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ron Pelletier" <ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:20 PM
>> Subject: RE: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm sure you understand that, in today's technology, deadlines are the 
>> most
>> important thing around.  In business, if people expect something in
>> September, that when they want it and business has to provide.  A month
>> before IOS 6 came out, everyone was speculating as to what would be and 
>> were
>> really expecting IOS 6 to be out on time.  Apple had to bring it out even 
>> if
>> they knew that it wasn't polished just like automobile manufacturers will
>> put out a car with known problems but would rather deal with a recall than
>> to hold the production beyond the expected deadline for release.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If you remember Windows 95 and all the others after, they all came out 
>> with
>> serious bugs but they came out on time as announced and bugs were 
>> corrected
>> after and everyone lived with that.  That's the way that big business 
>> works
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I think we need to give Apple a couple of months to see how they deal with
>> the after release and then I will agree or not with your statements. 
>> After
>> all, IOS 6 is only a week old and I am positive that engineers at Apple 
>> are
>> working around the clock to fix things that don't work and implement new
>> ones.  I'm sure Apple wants to stay on top and I'm sure they know how to 
>> do
>> it.  They just need time and that is something we, as users, are not 
>> giving
>> them.  We want better and faster than what can be done and why!  Only a 
>> few
>> short years ago, we as blind people, didn't even have access to anything
>> else on our cell phones than dial and answer.  We were complaining about
>> things as simple as buttons being too small to dial easily and audio
>> quality.  Now we complain about how long it takes to delete a message when
>> ,a very short while ago, we didn't even have access to that message.  We
>> even had to ask for sighted help to put contacts in our phones because we
>> couldn't do it ourselves.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> That is not to say that we should stop pushing for better access and 
>> better
>> things but we should be a little more patient as to how quickly it should
>> come.  All week, I have been following this list and read a lot more
>> complaints about what wasn't working quite right than I read of things 
>> that
>> are great innovations making room for more improvements.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm sure that, within the next few weeks, a lot of small bugs that I've 
>> read
>> about here in the past week will be corrected and we will already be
>> wondering what IOS 7 will bring.  We are just never happy with what we 
>> have.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ron & Danvers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Kliphton
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:32 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Article: iOS 6 is holding the iPHone 5 back
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The iPhone 5 is an incredible smartphone. I've been using mine since it
>> arrived on my doorstep at 7:48 p.m. the day after launch day (after a
>> painfully long wait), and I love it. It's spectacularly thin and light, 
>> it's
>> beautiful - like most Apple products - and that larger display is such a
>> welcome improvement.
>> 
>> 
>> I chose the white and silver model - I've had white iPhones for as long as
>> they've been available - and I think it's the prettiest gadget I've ever
>> owned. It's also powerful, and noticeably faster than my already snappy
>> iPhone 4S. Its battery life is excellent, and so is the camera.
>> 
>> Overall, I have a long list of positive things to say about the iPhone 5 -
>> the hardware is just unbeatable. But I think there's one thing letting it
>> down, and that's iOS 6.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Before I jump in and tell you why iOS 6 is letting down the iPhone 5, let 
>> me
>> just make one thing clear: I love iOS. It's by far the most polished 
>> mobile
>> platform there is, and it's been my OS of choice since its debut with the
>> original iPhone.
>> 
>> iOS "just works" - in so many ways. Its ability to sync with iTunes and
>> iPhoto, and all the benefits that iCloud brings, make it a perfect 
>> companion
>> for Mac users like me. It's super simple to use - even my granddad's using
>> it - and the catalog of third-party apps available on iOS is second to 
>> none.
>> 
>> But as a technology writer, I'm often required to step outside my comfort
>> zone and test other devices. devices that don't run iOS. Since selling my
>> iPhone 4S a couple weeks ago, I've been using a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and
>> prior to that I tested a long list of Android and Windows Phone 
>> smartphones.
>> 
>> Apple's platform is the best of the bunch, but the gap between iOS and its
>> competitors is getting ever smaller.
>> 
>> What I've learned along the way is that Apple's platform is the best of 
>> the
>> bunch, and for me, it's the little things that make the biggest 
>> difference.
>> But the gap between iOS and its competitors is getting ever smaller.
>> 
>> When Apple announced the original iPhone back in 2007, iOS - then called
>> "iPhone OS" - was like nothing we'd ever seen before. Sure, we'd had
>> touchscreen devices, but they were designed to work with tiny styluses 
>> that
>> quickly got broken or lost, and they were slow and unreliable.
>> 
>> Apple kept making iOS better, adding things like iTunes and support for
>> third-party apps through the App Store. These things took iOS way ahead of
>> anything else, and that's been the case for quite some time.
>> 
>> For the past few years, iOS hasn't been taking the leaps it did in the 
>> early
>> days.
>> 
>> But for the past few years, iOS hasn't quite been taking the leaps it did 
>> in
>> the early days. Apple has added new features and new services, some of 
>> which
>> are really terrific, such as iCloud - as I mentioned earlier - and Siri. 
>> But
>> there are some big things iOS is missing- things that other platforms 
>> gained
>> a long time ago.
>> 
>> 
>> Widgets
>> 
>> 
>> I want widgets on iOS.
>> 
>> These things become more apparent when you use those other platforms for a
>> few weeks. For example, Android's widgets may not seem like a big thing to
>> you, but try living with them for an extended period of time and you'll 
>> miss
>> them a lot when you go back to iOS.
>> 
>> Widgets let you add all kinds of things to your home screen, such as 
>> sports
>> scores, the weather, music controls, settings toggles, your Twitter
>> timeline, a breaking news feed. the list is endless.
>> 
>> Having these things in front of you right after unlocking your smartphone,
>> without having to open up an app, is just fantastic. I felt the same way
>> about Windows Phone's live tiles after using an HTC Titan for a month.
>> 
>> I want widgets, or maybe even dynamic icons, on iOS. And I know this is a
>> feature a lot of iOS users have been calling out for for some time. But
>> Apple is yet to introduce it. It has added its own alternative to
>> Notification Center in the form of Weather and Stocks "widgets," but those
>> have remained unchanged since iOS 5, and Apple is yet to offer us anything
>> new.
>> 
>> You can add widgets yourself if you jailbreak, and those that are 
>> available
>> through Cydia are. okay. But they'd be so much better if Apple supported
>> them and allowed developers to create them for their apps. The iPhone 5's
>> larger display creates room for widgets, so let's have them, Apple.
>> 
>> 
>> Quick Settings Toggles
>> 
>> 
>> Another feature iOS is missing is quick settings toggles. These allow you 
>> to
>> quickly change common settings without having to open up your settings 
>> app.
>> Android has them in the notification drop-down, allowing you to quickly
>> toggle Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, the screen rotation lock, and the brightness of
>> your display.
>> 
>> I don't want to have to stop what I'm doing and open up the Settings app 
>> to
>> enable/disable a feature.
>> 
>> And iOS should have them, too. I don't want to have to stop what I'm doing
>> and open up the Settings app to enable/disable a feature that could easily
>> be nothing more than a switch at the top of Notification Center.
>> 
>> 
>> Default Apps
>> 
>> 
>> How about customizing our default apps? Mobile Safari is great, but I 
>> think
>> Google Chrome is better. I love Mail, but I know others prefer Gmail or
>> Sparrow. Apple should allow us to set third-party apps as our default 
>> apps,
>> so that when you click on links in iMessage, you go straight into your
>> favorite browser.
>> 
>> This may not be for everyone; beginners may just want to use Apple's own
>> apps. But Apple could allow more advanced users to enable their own 
>> default
>> apps if they choose to.
>> 
>> 
>> Quick SMS Reply
>> 
>> 
>> This is a small feature that would make a big difference, I don't know why
>> it isn't baked into iOS.
>> 
>> For me, one of the biggest reasons to jailbreak is for BiteSMS. There are
>> many great features in BiteSMS, but the best is the ability to quickly 
>> reply
>> to messages from wherever you are with quick reply.
>> 
>> When you receive a text message, BiteSMS presents you with a popup alert -
>> just like iOS does. But within that popup, you can quickly reply to the
>> message. You don't need to step out of the app you're in to go to 
>> Messages -
>> you can just reply there and then. Once you hit send, you go straight back
>> to what you're doing.
>> 
>> This is a small feature that would make such a big difference, I don't 
>> know
>> why it isn't baked into iOS. It's not like our iPhones don't have the
>> processing power to handle a feature like this. The iPhone 5 is one of the
>> fastest smartphones money can buy.
>> Again, this may not be for everyone; some people will prefer more subtle
>> notification banners that don't distract you. But it would be nice to have
>> the choice.
>> 
>> 
>> Hiding Built-In Apps
>> 
>> 
>> As I mentioned earlier, some of Apple's built-in apps are terrific. But
>> others aren't. Weather never seems to be accurate here in the U.K., and 
>> the
>> information it provides is so basic you might as well just look out the
>> window. While I can't remember the last time I used Stocks.
>> 
>> I can understand why Apple doesn't want us to remove these, however; 
>> people
>> may accidentally delete essential apps. But why not let us hide the
>> nonessential ones? They're just taking up space on our home screens.
>> 
>> 
>> Maps
>> 
>> 
>> Finally, we come to Maps. I liked Google Maps in iOS 5; I wasted many 
>> hours
>> playing around with Street View. But I do feel Apple's new Maps app is a
>> worthy replacement, in fact, I think Flyover and turn-by-turn actually 
>> make
>> it a big improvement.
>> 
>> There's no two ways about this: Apple has provided us with a new Maps app
>> that just isn't finished.
>> 
>> At least, that would be the case if it worked. There's no two ways about
>> this: Apple has provided us with a new Maps app that just isn't finished.
>> And this isn't a minor feature that nobody's bothered about. Maps is
>> something a lot of us have come to reply on, but we can't in iOS 6, 
>> because
>> it doesn't work properly.
>> 
>> I accept that it's still early days and that Maps will improve over time.
>> But maybe it needed a little more improvement before it went public? We 
>> can
>> cope with a half-baked Siri, because no one had gotten used to a perfect
>> Siri. But we had gotten used to an almost perfect Maps app.
>> 
>> 
>> Competitors Are Catching Up
>> 
>> 
>> For me, the absence of simple features like this is holding iOS back.
>> 
>> It's not like these features are against Apple's policies, either. I'm not
>> asking for the ability to install apps from third-party sources, or 
>> support
>> for themes and skins. I know these things will never come.
>> 
>> But I think the features I've mentioned could easily be introduced to iOS
>> without going against all the things that Apple is about. What's more, 
>> they
>> wouldn't just be great for the average user, but they'd also please more
>> advanced users who are crying out for a little bit more.
>> 
>> For me, iOS is still the most complete package, but I do feel it's missing
>> several key features.
>> 
>> If you've only ever used iOS, some of these features may not be a big deal
>> to you. But once you've had a taste of them on another platform, their
>> absence begins to be a big issue. What's more, I feel it's encouraging 
>> users
>> to go and try other platforms - many of whom never come back.
>> 
>> I have a handful of friends who were iPhone users for years. But they now
>> own Android devices because of all the benefits Android brings. No, it's 
>> not
>> as polished. But its customization options and its flexibility make it a
>> more exciting platform.
>> 
>> For me, iOS is still the most complete package, and the best mobile 
>> platform
>> there is. But I do feel it's missing several key features, and not quite
>> evolving as quickly as it could be. This is giving its competitors a 
>> chance
>> to catch up and provide an increasingly compelling reason to switch.
>> 
>> With that said, I absolutely love my iPhone 5 - just like everyone else
>> who's bought one. And it's likely to be my daily driver for at least the
>> next 12 months. But I feel it could be an even greater experience if iOS 6
>> wasn't holding it back.
>> 
>> For now, I'll probably jailbreak and add some of the features I've 
>> mentioned
>> above myself in hope that future iOS updates will deliver some of the 
>> things
>> the vast majority of us have been waiting for.
>> 
>> How do you feel about iOS 6?
>> 
>> 
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