Until iPads and VoiceOver can announce column and row headers, there is no point in trying to use a spreadsheet on an iPad. This is my very biased opinion. Richard
"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books which are your very own." __ Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > On Dec 12, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Denny Schwab <[email protected]> wrote: > > Changing the subject to capture the information in regard to > spreadsheets and IPADS use. I too have significant doubts as to how > someone using an IPAD would compare to someone using a PC to work with > Excel. I tried Numbers, both on a MAC and an IPhone, but found it > clunky at best. If someone can explain how to use Numbers or Excel on > an IPad or Iphone in a comparable way as using one on a Windows PC I > would very much love to hear about it. > > Excel has so many helpful key commands in Windows that IOS just can't > duplicate, or at least does not duplicate. For instance, in working > with a large spreadsheet, you can use home/(left,right,up,or down) to > go to the last cell with data in which ever direction. That is simply > something I have not seen any way of doing on IOS. This is not to > mention all of the items listed in a previous post. > > Denny > >> On 12/11/18, Ryan Mann <[email protected]> wrote: >> Excel on a PC has keyboard commands to navigate spreadsheets and workbooks. >> Examples: >> Home key goes to the beginning of a row. >> Control Home goes to the top of a spreadsheet. >> Control pageup / page-down switches between workbooks. >> Shift right arrow selects cells. >> The equals sign starts a formula. >> These are just some things that make excel quick and efficient on a PC. >> Also, PC’s are easy to connect to work virtual private networks then connect >> to a network shared drive and access spreadsheets stored there. The iPhone >> and iPad can connect to some VPN’s, but the protocol that my work’s VPN is >> set up for is not supported by IOS. I forget what it is. I think it’s >> PPTP. I’m open to work arounds. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Dec 11, 2018, at 2:11 PM, Ed Worrell <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I really don’t see why they couldn’t use the iPad in the same time frame >>> or manner to do a simple spread sheet. That’s what a keyboard is for. Just >>> because it has a touch screen it doesn’t mean that it can’t be done. My >>> business partner has gone to using his iPad Pro for everything from spread >>> sheets to typing client notes and yes even watching Netflix whilst on the >>> road. It has become the all in one solution for him. He thought that he >>> would miss having a mouse to navigate. This is now a non-issue for him. I >>> understand everyones mileage will be different and yes he is visually >>> impaired he uses Zoom this set up works and accomplishes everything he >>> needs in a day. >>> >>> Ed W. >>> >>>> On Dec 11, 2018, at 12:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Then let's see how long it would take a blind person using Excel or >>>> Numbers on an iOS device to accomplish a variety of tasks which let's say >>>> would take me 1 hour in Excel on a PC. >>>> I am thinking of setting up a workbook say with a separate sheet for each >>>> day of the month where one would enter say sales amounts including taxes, >>>> how much each day was sold using Visa, Mastercard, American Express, >>>> Debit Card, Cash, Gift Certificates etc. At the top of each sheet should >>>> be the date and it should be set up so that if the date on the first day >>>> of the month is input, e.g. December 1, it is displayed as Saturday, >>>> December 1, 2018 and then all other 30 sheets in the workbook should have >>>> a formula referring to that date field on the first sheet to display the >>>> correct date. Then sheet 1 should actually be a summary sheet where all >>>> the values for each field are added up so one would see monthly totals >>>> for sales volume, returns, net sales, taxes, the various tenders etc. >>>> I would be extremely surprised if the blind person using Excel or Numbers >>>> on an iOS device can accomplish this in the same time as the blind person >>>> using Excel on a PC with Jaws or whatever their choice of >>>> screenreaderis. >>>> >>>> >>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>>> KliphnShari Miller >>>> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 2:34 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: A good option for those of you who want their iPad to >>>> replace a laptop >>>> >>>> Well, I don’t use excel, but I do use numbers. And it’s accessible with >>>> the iPad. I have friends that use excel though, and they swear there >>>> never going back to windows or a desk top. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 10, 2018, at 4:01 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>> How well does things like Excel or Word work .. if you are using them … >>>> or Pages and Numbers? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >>>> KliphnShari Miller >>>> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 4:25 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: A good option for those of you who want their iPad to >>>> replace a laptop >>>> >>>> I have went this rough for the last 6 months, and just got the 2018 pro >>>> model, couldn’t grab the link for the USB-C hub though. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 10, 2018, at 2:40 PM, Kimberly <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well, that's certainly interesting and a definite step in the direction >>>> of the iPad being a fully functioning laptop substitute. But speaking as >>>> a blind user, I can't see it happening for me unntil the keyboard support >>>> in iOS is as robust as what I can have with my windows laptop. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone >>>> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that >>>> we go on.—Annie Proulx >>>> >>>> On Dec 10, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Just came across this article and while I don't have an iPad and can't >>>> see myself needing or wanting one in the near or medium future, for those >>>> of you who do have one this might be interesting: >>>> >>>> iPad Pro's potential becomes clear with this $99 HyperDrive USB-C hub >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Sieghard >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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