I agree with you, Ed. I own a couple of echoes. Generally, I find that the 
Alexa system is horrible with respect to giving the information I actually need 
or could use, outside of the weather and a little bit of news briefing. and 
most of the skills are junk games and other Time wasters. That said, I do 
appreciate the echo for the easy access to SiriusXM and to its ability for 
reading  kindle or audible books while I exercise. I’m not into the automated 
so-called smart home, so I have no comment on HomePod or echo in that regard. 
But as a music listening sores, the HomePods kill the echoes. They should, they 
are more expensive. I have a pair of HomePods that I got when the price came 
down to $500 for the pair. They sound almost as good as my wonderful  
floorstanding stereo speakers it cost me over twice what I paid for the 
HomePods. I would never consider any pair of echoes as any sort of real hi-fi 
system even for moderately good audio quality listening.


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> On Dec 27, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Ed Worrell <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I have both an Apple HomePod and an Echo Dot connected to Bose speakers. I am 
> not sure why everyone thinks the HomePod is so far behind on “skills”. The 
> HomePod is a far better device, Now with Siri short cuts you can use third 
> party apps to do things from the HomePod. I find the Apple speaker much 
> simpler to use than the Amazon Echo. You have to remember very specific 
> application names and commands to use the Echo’s 3 million fart applications. 
> The skills on the Echo aren’t that impressive to me. It’s next to impossible 
> to set up using the app, you almost always have to use the internet browser 
> on a computer for full access to the settings. 
> 
> JMO
> 
> Ed Worrell 
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2018, at 11:06 AM, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> The home pod is behind both the Echo and Google home in many respects. Even 
>> with general features, the home pod is really lacking, and I think you can 
>> now play Apple music on the echo so there is little reason to get a home 
>> pod. Hopefully Apple will catch up but they have a ways to go.
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2018, at 5:36 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> You know, one of the most popular request made to both Apple and Amazon is
>>> that they provide independent sound equalizer support for their
>>> music/speaker devices.  
>>> 
>>> When I purchased my first Echo device, a while ago, this feature was not
>>> available.  The same was true for HomePod.
>>> 
>>> However, recently, this feature has now been added to the Echo interface,
>>> under audio from within the Settings area of the Alexa app.  This is very,
>>> very nice.
>>> 
>>> However, Apple has not added this feature to HomePod.   At least, if it has,
>>> I have not been abel to locate it in the HomePod interface.
>>> 
>>> And yes, I know there is a general sound equalizer, of sort, in the iOS
>>> settings area of the music app but, hereto, Apple falls short as these
>>> options are merely presets, not true customizable controls.  Moreover, one
>>> should not have to adjust the sound levels for an entire operating system in
>>> order to customize the sound setting for one specific device that is
>>> marketed as an entertainment listening device.
>>> 
>>> Besides, it's ridiculous to pay over $300 for a speaker and not have the
>>> ability to adjust its sound settings, independently.
>>> 
>>> I have owned my HomePod for over a year or so, I think, and have only used
>>> it 3 times because there is just too much bass, for my liking.  
>>> 
>>> With the overwhelming success of Echo, you'd think that Apple would realize
>>> that, especially when it comes to hearing, as well as vision, one size
>>> definitely does not fit all.
>>> 
>>> Just some venting, on my part.  
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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