I have a friend who had to go to assisted living. So, she got the lady from there to talk to me about getting her Victor Stream on the Wi-Fi system there. The first thing the lady said was, "there is no screen," like maybe the thing was broken, or the screen was not attached. I said, no, that the phone was designed for the blind. That has thrown my husband too, just can't get his head around that I download books and no screen in sight.
Best regards, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ Kiehne Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 8:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen I see on the victor reader stream list that many users won’t use a touch screen device. They want buttons. From: Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 8:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen I didn’t listen that far in the podcast, but I suspect that might be so, or it uses some variation on braille, but frankly, I think it is a bit silly, unless it does meet a specific need of someone with a particular disability, but to plug it as a way to use the iPhone without the touch screen is very misleading. I can already do that with a Bluetooth keyboard or a braille device like the Orbit Reader 20. Richard “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 8:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen And how would you say write a text message or email with 20 buttons? Please don't tell me it uses the old T9 method where you have to press the number 2 three times for the letter C etc. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 8:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen I agree Sieghard, This won’t help you if you are a quadriplegic, etc. It is a modified Bluetooth keyboard with 20 buttons and you have to learn their system of button combinations to accomplish what you want. It does offer a micro and speaker so the sound is coming out of the little keyboardish device. But, if you have some finger dexterity but not enough to use a standard Bluetooth keyboard, I guess there might be some uses for this. It must be targeting a small market given that the price is rather high. Just my two cents worth, and it didn’t cost you anything, grin. Richard “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 8:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but for the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that matter, other advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few cases where a person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if they are quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot of very smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make touchscreen devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing very efficient with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are better off trying to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe I miss something here, but I just don't get it. 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