Thanks for that very nice catch Sieghard. I sit corrected and have changed
my guide accordingly.. With help from this list and the Applevis community,
my readers will be in excellent hands when this thing's finally ready.

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 7:13 PM Marie N. <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:

> I use my IPhone much more than my sighted friends or family members and
> often help them learn how to do things. Most of the blind users I know
> depend on the phone for many things.
> Marie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 2:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>
> Sieghard, you are way smart - so good that you get the maximum use from
> your
> phone, use it like my sighted daughter-in-law.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 12:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>
> I think that's a matter of debate, I find it intuitive and easy both with
> my
> Windows PC and my iPhone.
> I have a retail business and on the business side I have a regular
> Canadian
> chequing account, a US chequing account and a business line of credit
> which
> is also a Visa card.
> On the personal side I have my personal chequing account, a so-called Tax
> Free Savings Account, a Scotia iTrade account, my mortgage, a personal
> line
> of credit and a US Visa. All of this is with the Scotia Bank here in
> Canada
> and a single sign-on gives me access to all my accounts.
> I can select to pay a bill and select whichever account I want to use to
> pay
> it from, same goes for transferring between accounts or sending email
> money
> transfers which I am not sure exist in the US.
> There is also a direct link from my business account to another service
> which allows me to file and submit my monthly PST (provincial sales tax)
> and
> GST (Goods and Services Tax) payments, these are taxes we collect when
> customers buy products and I have to submit them to the government. I also
> used to do my payroll deductions through this system, but now use a
> payroll
> service which does it for me.
> If I pay bills or do any business related stuff I prefer to do it on the
> computer although it's all completely accessible with the Scotia iPhone
> app
> as well, but when I pay a bill or do a transfer there is always a
> confirmation page which I like to keep so I print it but use the Microsoft
> Print to PDF printer in Windows 10 which allows me to save it as an
> accessible PDF.
> Using telephone banking in comparison is slow and clunky and I don't think
> I
> have called my banks telephone banking line in 10 years.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 2:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>
> Online banking is hard, even for my sighted and tech savvy husband. I
> haven't done it in too long now.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf
> Of Arlene
> Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 11:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>
> I meant to mention about the bank apps. I've never done online banking nor
> have I used my bank's app. Besides using the  flip phone for this purpose
> calling my bank's automated system, using the app makes sense to me, to be
> able to look up the information you need at any time for another way of
> doing it.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 8:05 AM
> Subject: RE: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>
>
> Interesting.  I’ve never had a bank ask for different numbers, but like
> Sieghard, I use my Bank’s app to check balances and such so I don’t have
> to
> call in.
>
>
>
> I use the programed numbers for things like checking voice mail on my
> office
> phone, or calling into webinar or phone conference calls where the numbers
> almost never change, but if they do, I hear about it well in advance and
> can
> simply edit that part of the contact.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
> Angie
> Nutt
> Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 4:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>
>
>
> But what if your bank asks for different characters from your password
> each
> time? I haven’t done telephone banking for years but that’s how mine used
> to
> work.
>
>
>
> All the best
>
> Angie
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4 Jan 2019, at 16:39, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca
> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:
>
>
>
> Simon,
>
>
>
> If your bank asks for your account number after you call in, just try to
> add
> a comma "," after the number and then type in your account number. Then
> save
> the contact and dial the number to try it. You might be surprised how easy
> it is. If, for example, you first have to press "1" and then enter your
> account number, add a comma, then a 1, then add another comma and then
> enter
> your account number and save.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf
> Of
> goshawk on horseback
> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 7:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>
>
>
> same here, I couldn't even figure out those instructions given.
>
> also, certainly with telephone banking, a lot only ask for certain digits
> from a pin these days, and they ask for different digits for every call.
>
>
>
> Simon
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Angie Nutt <mailto:an...@comproom.co.uk>
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 2:15 PM
>
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>
>
>
> That sounds like too much trouble to me. :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 4 Jan 2019, at 12:40, Ryan Mann <rm...@technologyisawesome.com
> <mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com> > wrote:
>
>
>
> There is a way that you could add your bank to your contacts and have it
> automatically put in your bank account number.  When you are creating the
> contact, put in the bank’s phone number.  After the number, put in a few
> commas then type in whatever you would normally put in after the bank’s
> phone system answers.
>
> For example, if you normally put in your account number then press pound,
> put in pen, press pound again, you would put in the following as the phone
> number:
>
> Bank phone number,,,accountnumber#,,,yourpen#
>
> You put in the comma by double-tapping on Shift then finding comma.  You
> need to do this for each comma.
>
>
>
> Sentfrom my iPhone
>
>
> On Jan 4, 2019, at 5:19 AM, Arlene <arlenes71...@earthlink.net
> <mailto:arlenes71...@earthlink.net> > wrote:
>
> When we go out I always take one of our button phones, there are times we
> need to check our bank balances and it's more doable with the buttons.
> With
> inputting the numbers from the screen, you would need to be real quick for
> it to work, and some of you might be quicker than me at doing that.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Angie Nutt <mailto:an...@comproom.co.uk>
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:36 AM
>
> Subject: Re: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>
>
>
> In my job I come across plenty of people who have either tried and don’t
> like the touch screen or have tried and just can’t get on with it. While I
> personally use the touch screen most of the time I can appreciate why
> buttons are useful as in making phone calls and I would probably find it
> quicker but I don’t use my iPhone as an actual phone that often. I am of
> course referring to numbers not in contacts being quicker to type on a
> hardware keyboard. I also know quite a few who really loved their original
> RIVo and those who have the RIVO 2 seem to feel the same. Personally, I
> just
> couldn’t get my head round it; it just isn’t for me.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca
> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:
>
>
>
> I think I heard about this before and maybe this is a newer version, but
> for
> the most part I am amazed at how much trouble people go to and how much
> money they spend to take away the strength of the iPhone or, for that
> matter, other advanced smartphones. I understand that there might be a few
> cases where a person for whatever reason can't touch the phone, e.g. if
> they
> are quadriplegic, have no hands etc. Apple and now Google have put a lot
> of
> very smart people to work to come up with this incredible way to make
> touchscreen devices extremely accessible, apps like Flicktype make typing
> very efficient with a bit of practice yet some people still think they are
> better off trying to avoid touching that screen as much as possible. Maybe
> I
> miss something here, but I just don't get it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
> From:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf
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> Russ Kiehne
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:03 AM
> To:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Using Your iPhone Without a Touchscreen
>
>
> I thought some of you might be interested in: Learn about the Rivo 2, the
> $299 add-on that lets you use your smart phone without a touch screen, on
> Audio Pizza:
> http://bit.ly/2LMApbp
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