Yu can't really operate it manually as a blind person, at least I haven't 
tried. I guess maybe you could if you had a sighted person figure it out first 
and then maybe put on a few tactile dots to indicate where you have to push.
Our T5 has at times disconnected, but you typically only have to take it off 
it's wall-mount cradle and snap it back on to reset it and it should reconnect. 
Probably a good idea to get the installer to show you how that works. I guess 
in my case I have the advantage that Jackie can do some trouble shooting if 
necessary and I still have a super-old fashion thermostat upstairs which just 
has the lever at the bottom you slide from left to right. Our Lyric T5 is 
downstairs as it's always a bit cooler there and this way if we have a visitor 
staying in our guest room downstairs it's easier to make sure it's comfortable 
and we just know that whatever temperature we set downstairs makes it a degree 
or 1.5 degrees warmer upstairs and of course for my lovely wife warmer = better 
*smile*.
We also have a woodstove in the living room upstairs and at times when it's 
really cold outside and nobody is using the downstairs we set the Lyric 
downstairs to 15 or 16 degrees, close all the vents upstairs and then use the 
woodstove upstairs which makes it warmer than you want in n o time if you are 
not careful and put in too many pieces of wood.
It might just be a good idea to ask your installer if he can put a basic 
manual/mechanical thermostat next to the Lyric T6, just keep it turned all the 
way down but this way if you ever have an issue with the T6 at least you have 
something to fall back on and these things only cost $20.

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2019 7:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hi Sieghard.  Yes, that is why I bought the T6, not much difference in price 
from the T5.
Just received it and feeling a little intimidated with that flat face, almost 
like the first time I saw an IPhone.
What is your experience with operating it manually and how was it to install?

Cheers….Reg


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 11:54 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hi Reg,

That sounds like a good option at a good price and checking the differences I 
would now probably have ordered the T6 instead of the T5. When I bought the T5 
I did so with I think it was Aeroplan points and they are not that different, 
one difference is that the T6 allows you to connect additional indoor or 
outdoor sensors so for example you could buy whatever compatible sensor that 
would be and put it in a different room.

Take care,
Sieghard

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2019 6:58 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hey Sieghard and good morning.
I ordered the Honeywell Lyric U T6 WIFI Thermostat from Amazon for $146.
Fingers crossed that it will be an easy installation and that it will work well 
with Google as promised!

Will review it when installed.

Cheers….Reg



From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 6:38 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hi Reg,

Looks like currently the Apple Store, Best Buy or Home Depot are good places to 
buy the Honeywell Lyric T5
There don't seem to be any deals, it's mostly the same price except that Home 
Depot sells it for an even $179.00, the Apple Store is $179.95 and Best By is 
$179.99.

Home Depot also mentions that depending on your province you may qualify for a 
rebate, you'd have to check if something like that is available in Ontario. 
Below are the links:

Honeywell Lyric T5 on the Apple 
Store<https://www.apple.com/ca/shop/product/HKJU2VC/A/honeywell-lyric-t5-wi-fi-thermostat>

Honeywell Lyric T5 on Best 
Buy<https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/honeywell-t5-wi-fi-smart-thermostat/12830889.aspx?>

Honeywell Lyric T5 on Home 
Depot<https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.t5-smart-thermostat-with-optional-power-adapter.1001024605.html>


Best regards,
Sieghard

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 9:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hi Sieghard.  I haven’t ordered the Honeywell thermostat yet, it’s on my to do 
list, hopefully today.
I now have two Google Mini’s and one  Amazon Echo Plus with Hub.
Now that I am beginning to make my home smarter I have discovered that the 
Amazon Hub that I bought over a year ago offers less flexibility than my google 
minis.
After reading your assessment of how both speakers handled several tasks, I 
agree with your conclusion.  I continue to be amazed at how intuitive Google 
Mini is and rate it head and shoulders above Alexa.

Before I order that Thermostat, I’m wondering if you know which Honeywell is 
the newest and greatest?

Regards….Reg


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2019 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hi Reg,

Did you just order it or is it already hooked up? As for the Google Home I must 
say that I am impressed with it and while I'll put my thoughts in a separate 
post along with my review of the Nest Hello video doorbell I just bought for my 
business, I think I like it a lot more than my Echo speakers. Of course the 
Echo has the advantage that is gives me access to my Audible library, but so 
far for most other things I have tried I find the Google Home better.


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Reg 
Sullivan
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Well there you go again, Sieghard is selling for Honeywell.  I just bought one 
on his endorsement.  Truthfully, it was on my list for a while and I just 
needed somebody to speak out positively about the Honeywell and for the record, 
it definitely does work with Google!    Now that we have a second google mini 
in our master bedroom we can now wake up and ask to have the house warmed up 
before climbing out of bed!

Regards….Reg




From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 11:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

And Nest can definitely also be controlled by Google home because Google owns 
Nest.
In any case, both of the options you mention are very expensive. We have a 
Honeywell Lyrick T5 which works with HomeKit, Alexa and I believe also Google 
and while it doesn't "learn", the app is super accessible and you can 
definitely set a schedule, that's a basic feature any good thermostat whether 
connected or not nowadays has. I believe the Honeywell Lyric T5 probably costs 
a third or so of what the Nest Learning thermostat or Ecobee costs and it does 
the job beautifully. I think there is such a thing as overkill, we don't have a 
very regular schedule so we never even use the scheduling function, after all, 
the beauty of a connected thermostat is that you can turn it up or down no 
matter where you are. It's 8:35 PM now and we just turned it down to 16 Celsius 
for the night, tomorrow morning when I wake up I will say "Alexa, set the 
thermostat to 21" and it will come on.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Steve 
Sweeney
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hi,
The Nest can also be controlled  by Alexa.  The Nest app is mostly accessible.  
I haven’t figured out how to set a schedule  yet
Hth -Steve
.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Robbie 
Miller
Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2019 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroupscom<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Ecobee4, and Nest gen3 Smart Thermostats

Hello,
I’m looking to have a smart thermostat installed.
Specifically, the Ecobee4 or the Nest 3rd gen learning thermostat.

The Ecobee4 can be controlled by iPhone or Alexa.

The Nest 3rd gen by iPhone.

Is anyone using either of these thermostats?
Is anyone using one that’s more accessible?
I would appreciate any advice.

Thanks,

Robbie

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