My original inquiry was as to whether or not ads were allowed on this lit. i
would prefer not, but if they are, i'll deal with it. i'll just give my delete
finger a workout.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Oyen
To: Visually impaired phone users
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: An Aria Update
And now, we see where politics has gotten injected into this list. Honestly,
if I wanted politics, I would go to WorldNewsChat (oh wait, I am already
there). Now, if I want to hear about new developments for apps and services and
discussion with developers, that was this list, until today. Like some others,
I have been a very long time member of this list. Sure, I don’t post much, but
I do read a lot.
Now, sure, a lot of the blindness vendors have advertised in here
periodically, but those ads have been low key and low bandwidth. They have also
allowed the opening of a dialog with those vendors on issues that might crop
up. I have solved more than 1 problem this way on my iPhone as well as the
Android device (data tablet) I have.
As a considered thought, if the same application exists across both iOS and
Android, then the underlying service being used by us functions without regard
to platform. Thus, given that logic, platform for the apps is irrelevant when
it comes to functionality and support. Perhaps that needs to be kept in mind.
However, given the histrionics I just witnessed, perhaps it’s time I sought
support info elsewhere.
Thanks for the help, support and information folks.
-Eric
On Jan 27, 2019, at 9:35 AM, Sandy Finley <[email protected]>
wrote:
Can we please calm down here? Mark is not a dictator — we simply disagree.
Please do not take your marbles and go home just because you have a different
perspective. Before you call Mark a dictator or anything worse, remember how
well this list has been run for many years.
Just because the bar for human decency has been dramatically lowered by the
current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is no reason for us to follow
suit. — in fact, we owe it to ourselves not to.
Sandy Finleyjust because you disagree,
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 27, 2019, at 9:28 AM, Richard Turner <[email protected]>
wrote:
Marie N,
I find your post offensive. I also disagree with Mark. Aira is a service
I choose not to subscribe to personally, but see nothing wrong with its
promotion on this list since this list is supposed to be about educating
visually impaired iPhone users about things that are helpful using their phone.
No one complains when the subscription service for Apple Music is
discussed. No one complains when TuneIn Pro Premium subscriptions are discussed.
I think Jonathan deserves an apology for being singled out for this
exclusion.
If this policy is not changed, I too will be unsubscribing.
Richard
The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't
have any." -- Alice Walker
On Jan 27, 2019, at 7:12 AM, Marie N. <[email protected]> wrote:
This post is offensive and totally uncalled for. The message was, in my
opinion, a promotion of Aira.
-----Original Message----- From: Reg Sullivan
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 6:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: An Aria Update
One of my favorite lines is "you chose to cut off the hand that feeds
you"
Mark, I am so surprised that as one entrusted in a leadership position
of a list that educates it's followers on Iphone related apps that make life
easier for those of us who choose to subscribe to them that you would feel
threatened by Jonathan's good intentions. Jonathan made his career educating
all of us on new ideas and concepts through his pod casts and charged pennies
for it.
Promoting Aira in this way will lead to broader acceptance of the
product among the blindness community and greater value for all of us in the
long run.
It's time for you to resign your post as moderator of this list and
time for those of us wanting open communication without barriers to move over
to the BlindPhone list!
Thank you to everyone who contributed to my tech development with your
posts to this list.
Regards....Reg
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 8:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: An Aira Update
Jonathan:
I've been on this list as long as you have. I appreciate and have
learned much from you and other contributors to the list.
Computers and iPhones are great. They even come wih delete keys.
I'll be joining the blind phones list.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 6:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: An Aira Update
Hi Mark and everyone. Given this new policy, I'll be unsubscribing
after around 9 years on the group, but I want to express my disappointment
about this change.
During Cara's excellent and even-handed leadership of this group, we
had many occasions where app developers would engage with us about their apps,
especially when those apps were blindness specific.
Since this particular app was one that has come up here on multiple
occasions, with some mentioning it as one of their top apps of 2018, it seemed
appropriate, on-topic, and of value to interested members to let them know
about recent developments, especially a free trial. This has been welcomed on
other groups.
It's a difficult and false distinction to separate the app from the
service, when the app is the vehicle for that service.
Further, the service itself would in the past have been considered
on-topic, because one uses it on an iPhone and it is blindness specific.
Anyway, I've learned a great deal over the last 9 years, so thanks to
everyone for that.
Should you wish to be on a group where app developers and users can
freely interact, you're welcome to join my BlindPhones list, which covers both
iOS and Android. If an app developer wishes to take time to engage, they are
welcomed with open arms.
[email protected].
And of course as has been already pointed out in this thread, there's
an Aira group too.
Thanks all.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, audiobooks and training
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: An Aira Update
I see your point, Andy. Be that as it may, any new service being
offered to our community, is always appreciated.
However, and this is to everyone, the iOS app only, is to be discussed
on this list. Any questions regarding the service, itself, to be taken
off-list, immediately.
Thank you all for observing this policy.
Moderator Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 3:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
I didn't know that ads were allowed on this list.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "James English" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
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On 1/26/19, Jonathan Mosen <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all. Since the middle of October, I've been Aira's VP of Explorer
communications. Since Aira has an iOS app, I thought the following
info
may
be of interest to some.
For those not familiar with Aira, we provide real-tine audio
description
of
anything visual, provided by security-vetted, trained
professionals. You
can
use it with your iPhone on its own, or if you perform any tasks
where
it's
useful to have both of your hands free, we offer optional smart
glasses.
The Aira app is free, and it's free to use in an increasing number
of
locations, or for an increasing number of tasks. We also offer
subscription
plans, much like cell phone plans, where you can use it for any
task,
anywhere.
If you've been curious about Aira and have wanted to take it for a
spin
in
your own environment, we've released a free 7-Day Trial of our full
paid
service. This offer means that anyone with a free account can try
anytime
access to Aira's professional agents whenever it suits them - just
like a
paying subscriber.
The 7-Day Trial provides 30 minutes to try Aira's service over a
period
of
seven days. Some of that time will be used for setting up account
preferences and asking questions about the service, but the
majority of
that
time is free to use for any task. It's a great opportunity for
people new
to
Aira to experience why so many use it as a must-have tool for
enhancing
everyday life.
Got some mail that needs sorting? Need a professional agent to
connect to
your computer to help with an inaccessible site? Or just want to
research
nearby restaurants or stores? Well, now you can, as a free user and
from
the
comfort of your home.
For all the details including a list of frequently asked questions,
head
on
over to
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Second, Aira has recently released a comprehensive series of
training
modules available for streaming online, or for download in DAISY
and MP3.
You can find it at:
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Faira.io%2Ftraining&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ccf363a93f0564a9e69a508d68469ce1b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636841987289948239&sdata=D9lSvAINOzW0%2Fx0f7Ey3RL51dmr39jon0R1VsqreVHo%3D&reserved=0.
This is a good way to learn about Aira even if
you're not signed up yet but are curious. Because this is such a new
class
of technology, many people not only want to know how to use Aira,
but how
it
might fit into their toolbox of blindness skills and apps.
Finally, we've just launched a podcast, called Airacast.
It's packed with news, interviews, tips, tricks, listener comments
and
more.
Subscribe to Airacast now from all the places most people get their
podcasts, including iTunes/Apple Podcasts, Google Play Music,
Stitcher,
TuneIn and more. Spotify is coming soon, iHeart Radio in a couple of
months
and an Alexa skill will be released eventually.
Many people enjoy hearing podcasts through HumanWare's Victor Reader
Stream,
so of course it's listed there too.
Should you wish to enter the RSS feed manually into your podcast
client
right away, it is:
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Search for Airacast in your podcast app of choice, or Here's an
Apple
podcasts link for you.
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All the best.
Jonathan
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