That’s terrible. I’d file a complaint with
the company and never use them again.
From: [email protected]
<[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 12:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Aira
Most of my lyft rides have gone well, but last
week a driver refused to take us because of my
wife's walker. He canceled the ride and we were
charged $5 for a no show even though we were, in
fact, in the car and he asked us to get
out. Fortunately, I was able to get the charge
reversed. Two days later we had a driver pull
up, and when she saw my white cane and my wife's
support cane, she took off. The service is
great, but still has some work to be done.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[email protected]>M.E.N.
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: Aira
I am certainly no expert, but I have been using
both Lyft and Uber for the last year and
absolutely love them. I have found the drivers
friendly, polite and very helpful and never felt
the least uncomfortable. Some are, of course
better than others but in all the many rides I
have taken, I have only had two drivers who got
less than a five star rating from me.
I realize the experiences will very depending on
where you are located but if there are no issues
being reported in your area, just give it a try.
The freedom and independence this service has provided is extremely pleasant.
From: Bill Outman
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 3:10 PM
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Subject: RE: Aira
I wasn’t going to jump in on this thread, but
your post caught my attention. Some of these
apps and services will be discussed on a
technology call I’ll be on in a few hours
sponsored through Hadley Institute for the Blind and Visually Impaired.
You mentioned stranger danger. This is a social
issue for me that sometimes keeps me from asking
for help.I’ve seen AIRA demonstrated at
various NFB state and national conventions
I’ve attended, but the cost is a limiting
factor for me now. I have Be My Eyes on my
phone but haven’t used it out of the issue of
dealing with someone I don’t know, and admit
even the name of the app reminds me squarely of
my limitations. I haven’t even learned how
tou use Facetime, though I think I could do
it. Seeing AI and K-NFB Reader are both part of my world.
The stranger issue has kept me from trying Uber
and Lyft, even though I have both apps. Yet I
can use cabs and the local paratransit, and even
used it in another community for a
convention. I am glad all these services and
apps exist to give us more choices than we used
to have, but I need help in working through some
of my issues to use these options more effectively.
Bill Outman
Secretary, Greater Daytona Beach Chapter
National Federation of the Blind of Florida
From:
<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 5:30 PM
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Subject: RE: Aira
Good God… When did this become a commentary on ppseudo-social anthropology?
Everyone’s got different needs and lifestyles.
Maybe folks don’t have a huge family or
sighted social network they can rely upon. Maybe
folks aren’t comfortable for reasons X, Y or Z
with just going around and asking random people
on the street for help. Ever heard of stranger
danger? Maybe folks have different levels of
mobility skills or abilities. Maybe, maybe,
maybe. I currently don’t have the need for
Aira, but I’m not going to go all luddite and
argue the other way. Thank goodness for
innovations like this. Be it Aira, Facetime,
BeMyEyes, the myriad GPS apps/services, etc.
There apparently seems to be a nitch/market/need for them.
And for the record and to refute silly tropes.
This is one Mexican who if I never saw a lot of
my cousins or extended family again, I wouldn’t shed a tear. Gimmy a break.
Cristóbal
From:
<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>
On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:10 PM
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Subject: RE: Aira
Hi Andy,
I totally agree as well.
How many blind people can afford $200.00 or more
a month to get unlimited service to have an
entire play at the theater described for them.
The people who are so passionate about this
service, don’t realize that the blind are 70 percent unemployed.
What about those people?
I went to the Ohio State University and went
everywhere I wanted to go with my good, old cane, and I do so today.
Technology is just getting out of hand, I think.
It is making some people lazy.
Also, why are blind people alone all of the time.
I hear so many blind people say that they are
alone here and there, and they need this service.
I always have people around everywhere I go , practically.
How many sighted people go out and roam around alone.
Another thing this brings up, is that blind
people need to be with sighted people, instead of using a service like this.
We are becoming a society where everyone wants
to do everything for him or her self, instead of relying on each other.
Many cultures would not think of doing so many
things alone like we do in the west, and I assume Australia
And New Zealand.
Mexicans love to live with their extended family.
They would not live alone if their life depended on it.
Technology like this AIRA, are just causing
people to be alone more with their technology.
When I ride the bus, I am always talking to people.
I do not even want to get on my phone!
I love talking to strangers the whole time I am out, , not on a device.
Thanks for putting up with my little rant.
Sometimes, I think the blind were better off,
when they had to get a reader to read everything
to them, and they had to remember it or take
good Braille notes as the human read to them.
New is not always better for people!
Have a great one,
David Moore
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From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 4:19 PM
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Subject: Re: Aira
I agree!
Considering that most blind people are unemployed, and that the average
income of blind folks is well below that of those who are not blind, aiRa
will only be feasible for a minority of blind people, thus making services
like Be My Eyes, and platforms like MS Seeing AI a welcome alternative.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cristóbal Muñoz"
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>
To: <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 1:05 PM
Subject: RE: Aira
As with most things in life. You get what you pay for...
And this isn't meant to denigrate BeMyEyes or the people who volunteer
through the service, but keep in mind you're talking about well intentioned
people who are still just volunteers at the end of the day.
Cristóbal
-----Original Message-----
From:
<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> On Behalf Of Marie
Lyons
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 11:53 AM
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Subject: Re: Aira
I can only tell you about “Be my eyes†and a difficulty I experienced. A
volunteer said, †over there†. That isn’t
very helpful to a blind person. I
do know of 2 stores who offer “Aira†for
free: Wallgreens and Wegmanns. This
is done by using the app on your iPhone.
Marie Lyons
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> On Jan 27, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Holly
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello:
>
> I just joined this group yesterday. I have been following the discussion
> concerning Aira.
>
> I am certain that most of you know about the app 'Be My Eyes', which is
> free and essentially operates like Aira, although the sighted people
> answering the phones are volunteers, not paid operators.
>
> I have never had a particular reason to use either app, as am living with
> a sighted partner.
>
> Could anyone tell me how they compare? The paid version seems very
> expensive for low income people.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Holly
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