Sieghard,
Well, isn't this some interesting VO and handwriting weirdness? <grin>
I don't have Whatsapp, but I can reproduce your issue with an app
starting with a number.
And, I also have the situation of apps appearing out of order when the
master list of apps is brought up using handwriting.
I've got 121 apps, so I start swiping up with two fingers. The first
App starting with the letter A is the ACB Link app. Then swiping up
with two fingers I have 7 little Words and 50 Radio, which is how it
should be..
The weirdness starts once I move past those two apps, this is while
doing a two finger swipe up. I have My Noise, EBay, iTunes Store,
iMove, And Boop, then YouTube.
Ironically, those apps are listed alphabetically between YouTube and the
50 Radio app, so I am not sure what's causing it.
I can, however write an I, E, or a letter M and bring up the respective
apps.
However 7 Little words is never listed unless I'm looking at the master
apps list. I'm fairly proficient with using handwriting, but the app
never is listed when using numbers. I did verify that the app is
written with a Number 7 and that I was writing a number 7 just to be
sure and no luck. Voice Over doesn't report any special characters
before the number 7 in the app name, either.
I think this is another instance of Voice Over not reporting what's
going on behind the scenes.
It's not a huge glitche, but it makes me wonder what else I'm missing.
Lisa
Lisa Belville
[email protected]
On 3/31/2019 4:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Lisa,
Read my message about WhatsApp which I just sent. It does not show up under "W"
either if you use handwriting.
Maybe try what I explained, write an "A" to bring up all your apps starting
with A, then swipe left with 2 fingers to delete the letter, this will then bring up an
alphabetical list of all apps on your phone. You can swipe through this list by swiping
down with 2 fingers or you can swipe up with 2 fingers and if you are on the first app
starting with an A you go to the last app alphabetically, if you have YouTube installed
it should be YouTube. But as I explained, in my case I have WhatsApp as the very last
app, then 3 more apps which for whatever reason are not where they should be
alphabetically.
-----Original Message-----
From:[email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Lisa
Belville
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 2:15 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: Trouble Renaming Voice Dream Scanner
Hi, Sieghard.
Thank you for such a detailed explanation. The fact that VO was reading the
new name in the app switcher was what threw me off at first.
Now I'm still wondering how to open the Voice Dream Scanner App because
using handwriting and writing the letter S only brings up one instance
of Scanner and it is for the Scanner Radio app. I don't recall whether
or not this was the case before I renamed it.
It's not that big of a deal because I know where the app is, but I use
handwriting to open apps quite a bit and since Scanner seems to be a
popular name it might throw others off as well.
Lisa
Lisa Belville
[email protected]
On 3/31/2019 3:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Hi Lisa,
As Anna said, renaming an app with a 2-finger double tap and hold will change
the name so Voiceover reads it as whatever you call it, but it only renames it
for Voiceover purposes, the underlying name is still whatever the developer
called it.
I just tested this with an app called "Meteo" which is the official weather app
from Environment Canada.
I renamed it to "Canadian Weather". Now when I swipe to it or touch it on the home screen Voiceover
says "Canadian Weather" and not "Meteo".
However, if I open the app and then pull up the app switcher, Voiceover calls it "Canadian Weather"
in the app switcher as it should, but if I swipe up or down with one finger to change the rotor to close it
from the app switcher, Voiceover says "Close Meteo" not "Close Canadian Weather".
Similarly, if I use handwriting to find it I have to type "M" and it shows in
the list of apps starting with M as Meteo.
The same applies to Voice Dream Scanner. If you rename it from Scanner to Voice Dream Scanner Voiceover will say that
except if you want to find it with handwriting you have to write "S" and if you have another app called
Scanner they will both show up, also if you open it and then close it from the app switcher Voiceover would say
"Voice Dream Scanner" when it reads it in the list of open apps, but as soon as you swipe up or down it will
say "Close Scanner" not "Close Voice Dream Scanner".
-----Original Message-----
From:[email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Lisa
Belville
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 1:26 PM
To:[email protected]
Subject: Re: Trouble Renaming Voice Dream Scanner
Hi, Anna.
Yes, this is the method I used.
Hmm, so iOS doesn't recognize the name change even though the app called Voice
Dream Scanner has been moved to my OCR folder using regular VO edit functions.
To clarify, I've found the app with the new title using VO and activated it and
closed it with no issues.
I'm assuming there's something under the hood that the average VO user cannot
change which will change what VO really sees when you have focus on an app.
If not than I'm totally confused. Not your fault, it's mostly my default setting.
<grin>
Lisa
.
Lisa Belville
[email protected]
On 3/31/2019 1:45 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:
Hi Lisa,
I assume that when you say you changed the name of the app, you did the
two-finger double-tap and hold gesture and typed in a name. Is that right? If
so, that changes the label VoiceOver reads, but I don't think it changes the
name of the app as far as iOS is concerned. I don't think there's a way to
actually rename an app.
Best,
Anna
On Mar 31, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Lisa Belville<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi, all.
I just downloaded the Voice Dream Scanner app and so far I really like it. I
only tried scanning mail free hand, but I'm guessing it will rival Seeing AI
when I use my Stand Scan to do a better job stabilizing the phone.
My issue is that when the app installed the default name was Scanner. I have
another app called Scanner that is an Emergency/Police frequency scanning app.
I renamed the Voice Dream app to Voice Dream Scanner and then moved the newly
named app to my OCR folder on the home screen.
Now when I use handwriting to bring up apps starting with the letter V I get
Voice Dream, which is the Voice Dream Reader, and the Voice memos app that
comes pre-installed on the phone.
The letter S brings up several apps starting with S including Scanner, but this
is the original Scanner radio app.
I tried using handwriting and tested with a lower case and then an upper case V
and got the same results.
I double-checked that the Voice Dream Scanner app was successfully renamed, and
that there were no other punctuation or special characters. I verified that it
did start with the letter V as in Victor and not B as in Bravo.
Still no Joy.
Any thoughts?
Lisa
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