Re: addendum to the theme question

[Christopher Chaltain]

My point isn't that other platforms don't have their issues, but rather 
that this thread was supposed to be about how beneficial Apple devices 
have been to people since their introduction. I saw this as a feel good 
thread where people could share their experiences on the greater 
independence they now have due to the iPhone and related apps and 
services. I didn't see this as an opportunity to knock every other 
platform out there. I use Windows, IOS, Linux and Android, and although 
I know the limitations of the various platforms, I don't go out of my 
way to find opportunities to knock each platform. As I said below, I can 
appreciate everything Apple has done and the iPhone has done for me 
without tearing down every other platform out there.


On 5/27/19 5:56 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
Lol. I'd actually love to be able to say with certainty, that Android 
and Linux are wonderful platforms for the blind. I've used both for at 
least half  a year. I just don't subscribe to the notion that we 
should have to work around every little inaccessible app made by 
Google, and use another desktop on Linux because KDE is barely 
accessible now, and Gnome has a huge accessibility problem, that you 
cannot change settings in the settings center. Imagine having those 
problems on Apple products, mail, messages, TTS, and the keyboard 
being inferior on iOS. Sure, third-party options, even Eloquence, but 
I love the fact about Apple devices, that you can get along very well 
without even having to buy that $13 onscreen braille keyboard on Android.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 26, 2019, at 11:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca 
<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

There’s got to be a party pooper in every crowd, what I wonder is why 
Devon is even on this list since he seems to be included in the “we 
Android users”, oh right, his signature is “Sent from my iPhone”.

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*Subject:* Re: addendum to the theme question

It's a shame this thread couldn't just be about everything that's 
good about the iPhone but has to be used by some to bash anything not 
Apple. I can certainly give Apple the credit it's do without bashing 
Microsoft, Google and Linux. I guess some also just don't realize 
that when you trash a product you don't choose to use yourself you're 
also putting down all of those people who didn't make the same choice 
you did.

On 5/26/19 1:48 PM, Devin Prater wrote:

    Gosh yes! And Android users have to pay like $12 for a braille
    keyboard that is maintained and kept up to date... for now...
    lol. We get all these, the vocalizer voices, and Apple's *high
    quality* Siri voices, all free!

    Sent from my iPhone


    On May 26, 2019, at 1:45 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan
    <pau...@roadrunner.com <mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com>> wrote:

        One thing I completely forgot to mention in my earlier post
        is that there are so many ways of inputting information into
        the phone, sending texts or sending emails.  One can use hand
        writing although since I’m totally blind I don’t use that
        feature, still it’s available for those who might want to use
        it.  In adition, MBraille and the native Braille screen
        input, dictation, the onscreen keyboard and using a separate
        Braille or quarty keyboard are all available.  It’s so very
        cool that apple provides options for all of these methods.

        God bless!

        Paula and Garçon

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