I have installed this software on her friends phone and we are having lots of 
problems. Could someone give me the step-by-step directions on how to roll back 
to iOS 12 please. Thank you.

Johnna Simmons

> On Sep 28, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> I wasn’t sure, but I’m not surprised.
> That is too bad because the Apex was a fine product.
> But that is the trend.
> Too bad they don’t offer a better trade-in deal.
>  
> I think if I had an older braille device, and there wasn’t something really 
> necessary in iOS 13, I’d roll back to iOS 12 before it is too late.
>  
> Assuming braille was working fine then.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
>  
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> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 9:18 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: ios13.1.1 the bugs
>  
> My understanding is that humanware would no longer be updating the apex, 
> especially now that the are using the android system with braillenote touch 
> and touch plus. 
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 10:50 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: ios13.1.1 the bugs
>  
> Davie,
> Has Apex had any firmware updates?
> I have not handle one for several years.
> If Humanware hasn't kept it updated, it could be an issue with the older 
> hardware/bluetooth.
> Or, it could be a What's App issue.
> I don't use that app.
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 
>  
>  
> 
> On Sep 28, 2019, at 7:28 AM, Michael McKay <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi! Folks:
> 
> Concerning the bugs in this iOS 13.1.1 update. Is there any problem 
> concerning the loss of power with the battery supply for the iPhone, or any 
> other mobile phone when downloading this new update. I need to know for sure 
> so that I can be aware of it. So far all the updates for me have not been any 
> problem. But having a good battery supply, And a long lasting battery life 
> while using my iPhone is in the Cecily for me. I cannot afford to keep 
> plugging this thing in all day long as it would impede tasks that I need to 
> do and information that I need to collect while away from my computer.
> 
> I would appreciate anybody on the list letting me know specifically what the 
> situation is.
> 
> Thank you all in advance.
>  
> Regards!
> 
> Michael G MacKay BA,‘ 05.
> Email: [email protected]
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 28, 2019, at 10:33, Davy Cuppens <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks
>  
> I must say: ios13.1.1 is not a disaster. I can work and live with it but for 
> those that are in doubt whether to update or not I should say: wait wait wait.
> 2 major bugs
> First, the notification center is a mess like I said and Apple refuses to 
> take steps to examine those bugs while there were 4 beta rounds in which 
> blinds have reported these issues without any correction.
> Second: there are still severe braille bugs with editing text with a brail 
> display. After typing ca 30 seconds or 1 minute, voiceover stops giving 
> feedback.
> Regards
> Davy
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