I had an Android tablet, really liked TalkBack, no problem deleting emails. I 
liked the Eyes-Free list. It had a whole lot of traffic, but from time to time, 
they had great videos. 

When I grew up, people used to argue over a Chevy or a Ford, and living in 
Houston, I used to say, get either one, get on U.S. 75, you'll get to Dallas. 
Same with Android and iPhone. 

I really like my iPhone, because I use it all day every day and am accustomed 
to it. 

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Nimer Jaber
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Subject: Re: Accessibility of android

I am, and have been an Android user from the beginning. Android is different 
than iOS. If you want to do things as you always have, you are unwilling to 
change your workflow, you like iOS, stick with iOS. If you come into it with 
curiosity, knowing that it is different, knowing that there are probably users 
doing what you want and solutions for what you want to do even if it involves 
doing those things in a different way, then Android is for you. Devon stated a 
number of things. He stated that TTS voices are not as high quality. This is 
subjective, and some of the Google TTS voices are pretty good, especially 
voices which have been added recently. Of course you can purchase other voices 
as he stated. Devon also stated that you must use headphones to silence speech. 
Another way to silence speech is to turn down the accessibility volume to zero. 
This is not ideal, we should have a silence speech option, but there is a 
solution which does not require the use of headphones, and an example of what I 
mean by changing your workflow. Devon stated that it is difficult to delete 
emails. I disagree. Delete is right at the top of Gmail, and other email apps 
have different layouts. Talkback has actions such as are found in Voiceover, 
and bringing up a list of actions can easily be bound to a gesture of your 
choosing. This is a change to your workflow, but not one which makes you 
unproductive, in my opinion. Voice assistant is more like iOS in that delete is 
available by swiping up with one finger, and with Voice assistant, 
double-tapping with two fingers triggers the chosen action. So again, very 
similar to what iOS has, except that you double-tap with two fingers instead of 
one. Voice assistant requires a Samsung device. Android provides users with 
choice, there are many different manufacturers and some add additional 
accessibility features, there are many external apps on the Playstore for 
accessibility functions or otherwise, so most likely, whatever you want to do 
will be probably doable, although you may have to change how you currently do 
it.

there are two mailing lists which I recommend you join for additional help and 
info about Android. [email protected] 
<mailto:antad%[email protected]>  and 
[email protected] 
<mailto:eyes-free%[email protected]> 

Antad is a group which is composed of Android users who wanted their own list 
without moderation. The result is a list which may not stick to Android as a 
topic, but you can still get very helpful information there.

Eyes-free group is ran by Google. It is more moderated now, and has Android as 
a topic of discussion.

You can also search for the Antad podcast in tunein, or the podcatcher of your 
choice for a podcast by Android users and Google fanboys. It may be under 
inclusiveandroid if you cannot find it under antad podcast, but let me know if 
you can't find it.

Here's hoping this helps.

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:18 PM Amy Johnson <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:


        I have a smart vision 2 phone that runs on android and I like it for
        certain things but still use my Iphone for certain apps as well.
        
        On 10/16/19, Devin Prater <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
        > I used it for half a year in 2017 to 2018. It is usable, but not as
        > productive as the iPhone. For example, deleting email is not as 
quick, there
        > is no widely used Actions rotor, and Google TTS is still very low 
quality
        > compared with iOS’s many speech choices. Of course, you can buy other 
voices
        > for Android. If you use Braille, you must download the BrailleBack 
app,
        > which also requires that Talkback be on, which means that you have to 
plug
        > in headphones to have silent braille usage.
        >
        >> On Oct 16, 2019, at 1:51 PM, James Lockwood <[email protected] 
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        >> I know this is a group for iPhone. However has anyone used android
        >> recently? If so can you please comment on its accessibility? Has it
        >> improved at all
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