It's good to have 2 or 3 screen readers on any operating system at any time,
and it's very easy to decide what screen reader is most important to you. And
the other screen readers wouldn't get in the way of your main screen reader. In
addition if you have a computer with hard drive caddys you could just go from
windows 10 to windows 7, the flexability is unlimited, as easy as changing a
cassette. This way you always have an operating system that works.
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: iMazing
Well, I was a private beta tester for Window-Eyes for more than 10 years.
In fact, I wrote some of the set files they included on their CD.
The problem with using it in Windows 10, is that as Windows 10 makes changes,
nothing is being done to keep Window-Eyes up to date.
Yes, it might be worth installing for this one program, but the risk of other
complications is just not worth it to me.
More power to those who continue to use it.
And, since the iMazing app is for access to iPhones and iPads, it is not off
topic, in my opinion.
But this topic is seemingly not going to go anywhere.
So, I'll leave it lie.
Richard
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On Nov 30, 2019, at 4:57 PM, Arlene <[email protected]> wrote:
Well, window-eyes will work in windows 10 but from what I've observed it
seems to work real good in windows 7. I know there are quite a few window-eyes
users that continue to use window-eyes in windows 10 and windows 7. It's
definitely worth keeping around. and in certain situations it could actually
make your computing experience a very good one. Since this is actually an
iphone list, happy computing and happy iphoning.
Wayne
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: iMazing
Well, good to know that Window-Eyes is working for you.
It was my preferred screen reader until Vespero bought it and stopped
development.
Since it will never be updated I uninstalled it since I'm running Windows
10.
Richard
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On Nov 29, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Arlene <[email protected]> wrote:
Fanus, our experience is with imazing is with windows 7 with
window-eyes, so that's where the difference is with our experience and your
experience. We've observed over and over again, the big differences between
screen readers and operating systems. While we have windows 10, and jaws and
nvda, our best computer experience remains with windows 7. As soon as we can we
will see how it is use imazing wiht windows 10 with window-eyes and jaws and
nvda. Hopefully there's a solution with using imazing with windows 10. Just as
soon as we experience using imazing with windows 10 and the other screen
readers, we'll let you all know our experience here on the list.
Arlene and Wayne
----- Original Message ----- From: "Fanus Buys" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 1:40 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing
Hello List
I am not sure how Arlene can say its easy to use. I use Windows 10 and
IMazing has several unlabled buttons and when I tab to the list of items of
which music is one, JAWS says the same thing for all 18 items. I followed the
steps of the online short tutorial but I get a message that iCloud music
library on my iPhone 11 is on, so music can not be transferred. iCloud music is
off and I even turned apple music off. When I try to use the "transfer from
folder" option IMazing indicates that the music was transferred but nothing
shows on the iPhone.
Up to now the support team can not come up with a solution so I do not
know if the app is not compatible with IOS 13.2 or the iPhone 11.
Regards
Fanus
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 29 November 2019 06:29
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: iMazing
The only difference it could make if you use Windows 10 is if you
primarily have to use iMazing with the Jaws cursor since in many cases the Jaws
cursor under Windows 10 isn't able to read the information it could read on a
Windows 7 system.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 12:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: iMazing
I'm on Windows 10 which shouldn't be that different in reality.
How, then, do you copy a ringtone to the phone using iMazing?
Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
Arlene
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 10:18 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: iMazing
Richard, you're right, saying it works doesn't help. Possibly we can
help since we're now using the unpaid version, but getting the paid version
soon.
What operating system are you on? If you have windows 7,we would be
able to help you with questions you have and tell you more. Anything you need
to transfer from your computer to your iphone, imazing makes it very easy. In
away it's a bit easier to use than itunes, being more screen reader friendly.
Arlene
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Turner" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: iMazing
Actually, I'd like those questions asked and answered on list.
It has been highly recommended but no one has given any specific tips
on how to use the bloody program.
You are supposed to be able to do some things with the free version
before deciding to buy; but I'll be jiggered if I can do anything whether using
arrow keys or tabbing.
Saying it works, is not useful.
Giving some steps on how to work with it would be.
Thanks,
Richard
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
Fanus Buys
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 7:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: iMazing
Hello list
Is anyone using this successfully and if so, can I ask a few questions
off list?
Regards
Fanus
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