Hi Eric,

A friend has the website below, hopefully you'll find it to your liking, but 
I'm not sure if they have an email group / list.

http://www.WoodWorkingInTheDark.com



Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go dodgers!
I didn't stop shaking hands because of, COVID-19, I stopped because noone 
can buy toilet paper!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Eric Caron
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: iphone 8 or XR?


Hi Sieghard

I was so happy to get a face recognition iPhone for exactly those reasons. 
Though my Vermont weather isn’t as bad, the wood working and hard use of my 
hands in projects caused my finger print reader to rarely work.  I was often 
redoing it so it would work for a little while.

I have found that I can be subtle when opening my iPhone.  As all it has to 
do is sort of see my face and it clicks on.  I have it on the setting that 
doesn’t require eye contact.

Now if only my talking tape measure and audible level could be controlled by 
my voice that would be great!

Is there a email list for blind wood workers out there!
 Or, maybe those working on vintage cars?

One more related thing.  I did struggle a little to learn the gestures that 
replace the home key.  I was trying to do them from a podcast description. 
It took me some practice and I did have some frustration.  But, now I prefer 
the gestures and miss them when using older iPhones.


Eric Caron

> On Mar 17, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Yes, Touch Id may let you unlock the phone while it's in your pocket or in 
> a belt holster, but it's different strokes for different folks. I live in 
> northern Canada and I'd love to have Facetime since then I wouldn't have 
> to take off my gloves every time I'm outside and want to unlock my phone 
> and for us up here that is probably about 5 months out of the year. Then 
> there are the times when I spend more time in my woodworking shop and when 
> Touch Id simply won't work because either my fingers have too many cut and 
> cracks in them or they are full of glue which even when properly removed 
> usually messes up Touch Id for a few days.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Øyvind Lode
> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:45 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: iphone 8 or XR?
>
> I recently went from iPhone 7 to XR.
> Getting used to the large screen and no home button took about 2 minutes.
> I really loved Touch ID and I was a bit skeptic.
> However, Face ID is simply brilliant.
>
> On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 at 14:37, brian albriton <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately, I cannot put my face in the pocket, and unlock the phone! 
>> I prefer the discretion of the touch ID
>>
>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 10:48 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I would say they are hugely different since the XR has no home button and 
>> uses Facetime for authentication and the iPhone 8 still uses the virtual 
>> home button with Touch Id.
>>
>> This means you have to learn and get used to the gestures which replace 
>> single and double pressing the home button.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
>> Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 12:33 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: iphone 8 or XR?
>>
>>
>>
>> For long life coverage,
>>
>> Go the XR
>>
>> They are a very similar phone in most ways although the processor in the 
>> XR is the year later I believe.
>>
>>
>>
>> But either way both the 8 and the xr should be around / supported for 
>> another couple of years yet,
>>
>>
>>
>> And ask your Verizon sales person why you should get the latest when the 
>> 8 or the XR would be very suitable for a person with a visual impairment
>>
>>
>>
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of R 
>> Van Lant
>> Sent: Monday, 16 March 2020 5:31 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: iphone 8 or XR?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am currently on an iphone 6S and want to upgrade my phone, as I have 
>> noticed performance issues since moving to IOS 13 and I want to be able 
>> to start using the Way Around tags.   With an $80 trade-in value, I’m 
>> debating between the iphoen which I can get new for $369 from Apple or 
>> the iPhone XR for $519.  Is the iphone XR a good model?  The main reason 
>> I was thinking of spending a bit more is to stave off any planned 
>> obsolescence of the 8, but my budget would prefer the iphone 8.  I can 
>> also see that the screen size is a bit bigger on the XR at 6.1 inches. 
>> I really rely mainly on VoiceOver, so the screen clarity isn’t that 
>> important, nor is the fancy camera, other than OCR  capability.  Yeah, 
>> battery life is nice, but I’ve managed fine with my 6S and a portable 
>> battery pack for the rare occasion I need extra power on the go.  Yes, I 
>> prefer finger print reader to the idea of face ID, but I’m sure I’d 
>> adjust.
>>
>>
>>
>> With Apple stores closed, I cannot get my hands on samples and the sales 
>> guy at Verizon was really pushy, trying to shame me out of anything but 
>> the newest model.  So, hoping a coupld of you smart people wouldn’t mind 
>> telling me your thoughts for budget conscious shoppers.  My biggest fear 
>> is getting an iphone 8 and having similar performance issues to what I 
>> have now where, even with four bars of cell service, my emails and web 
>> pages take super long to load.
>>
>>
>>
>> Robin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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