That was what I thought about the screen sizes, Sieghard, but I know that you 
know. I'm convinced now. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

Because the new OLED display technology does no longer require the large bezel 
which is otherwise around the screen of every iPhone, also not requiring space 
for the  Touch Id home button frees up a lot of space which can be used for the 
screen without increasing the size of the phone.
Take a look at the below dimensions of th eiPhon e8, 8 Plus and iPhone 11 Pro 
and you see what I mean, the iPhon e11 Pro has the largest screen of those 3 
models with 5.8 inches yet it is much smaller than the iPhone 8 Plus which has 
a slightly smaller screen, 5.5 inches, and it's only just a very little bit 
larger than the iPhone 8 with a 4.7 inch screen:

iPhone 8 with 4.7 inch display: 138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm iPhone 8 Plus with 5.5 
inch display: 158.4 x 78.1 x 7.5mm iPhone 11 Pro with 5.8 inch display: 144 x 
71.4 x 8.1 mm
 
The increase in size from the 8 to the 11 Pro is 5.7mm in length (less than a 
quarter inch), 4mm in width (a bit more than a one eighth inch) and 0.8mm in 
thickness.
If you were to put an iPhone 8 on top of an 11 Pro you could notice the 
slightly longer length, the width you would barely notice and yet the screen of 
the iPhone 11 Pro is more than 1 inch larger.
If Apple released a 5.4 inch iPhone with OLED screen and Face Id this fall 
which is 0.4 inches less than the iPhone 11 Pro, such a phone would most 
definitely be slightly smaller in length and width than the current iPhone 8.

Best regards,
Sieghard




the example of the iPhone 11 Pro, it is 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Okay, how can a 5.4 inch phone be smaller than a 4.7 inch phone?



Marie
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From: Peter Logan
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

The rumored 5.4 inch phone rumored for this fall will be exactly what you are 
stating ..  If the rumors are true it will be  slightly smaller than the
4.7 in. SE...


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Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 10:29 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

They need to keep being innovative in order to keep selling.

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

If Apple ever decided to make a 4.7 inch phone with an OLED screen and 
virtually no screen bezel as well as Face Id so that the home button wouldn't 
have to take up space at the bottom of the screen they could easily make such a 
phone in the size of an old 5S or the original SE. Of course whether this is 
going to happen is anybody's guess, don't think it is anything which we'll see 
in the next couple of years, but who knows what they'll do in 3 or 4 years.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

Definitely, I don't think there'll ever be a phone that small again. I'm 
guessing that the new ones have 24 icons on the original home page, not 20 like 
the original SE phones.

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Dave
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:06 PM
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You may find, any new phones after the new SE, will be bigger.

Dave.


From: kitty hevener <mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning


Thanks, I could not recall or find the size of the original se, the phone I 
currently have.  Since I don’t like the larger phones, I will definitely be 
sticking with what I have as long as I can.  You might recall that I purchased 
an se with more space not that long ago.  It was a mess getting the thing to 
work, but persistence, help from folks on this list, apple accessability desk, 
and geniuses at the apple bar, I succeeded.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning



First of all, Kitty, the new iPhone SE which was just released is the exact 
same size/format of the iPhon e 8 and that is equal to a 4.7 inch screen.

The original iPhone SE which was released in the spring of 2016 had for the 
most part the internals of the iPhone 6S which was released in the fall of 
2015, but it was actually a 4 inch phone like the old iPhone 5 and 5S from
2012 and 2013.

As for iOS 14, I think it’s entirely possible that the iPhone 6S, 6S Plus and 
the original SE still get this year’s iOS release. After all, the iPhone 5S 
which was released in 2013 with iOS 7 preinstalled got all the upgrades 
including iOS 12 in 2018, only last fall did it not get iOS 13 any more. 
This means after the OS it shipped with it got 5 more iOS updartes, all the way 
from 2013 to 2018 or 6 years.

The iPhone 6S/6S Plus and the original SE were all released with iOS 9 
preinstalled and so far they received iOS 10, 11, 12 and 13, that is one 
version less than the 5S.

My wife and I both also have the iPhone 8 and we will definitely not upgrade to 
this new iPhone SE just for the sake of going from 2 Gb to 3 Gb of RAM and from 
the A11 to the A13 processor. In real life you won’t notice that much of a 
difference and anybody who argues that on this new phone apps open faster, the 
app switcher come sup faster and so on should ask themselves how many seconds a 
day they’ll save and whether that is really worth it. Anybody who still has an 
iPhone 6 or even a 5S should probably upgrade, but I want to see what Apple 
comes up with this fall. I really want a phone with Face Id and 5G support, but 
unless there are some other compelling aspects I will probably wait until the 
fall of 2021.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 1:59 PM
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Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning



No one Knows ForSure if Apple's iPhoneSE 1stGeneration will Be Supported  by 
its Forthcomin' iOS14 Personally, I don't Think it will Be Supported

But with All of the Perceived Bugs & Flaws AssociatedWith Apple's iOS13, 
Apple may Support   the 1stGeneration SE
At 01:49 PM 4/17/2020, you wrote:

Richrd, thanks.   Wonder how long will be able to use my current se.  I hope 
at least another year or two.Â

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 4:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning

It is not the same size as the old one.
It is more the size of the standard iPhone 8.
So current cases will not fit it.

The old SE is worth $30 in trade.
I plan to use my old one as a music and book player as a WiFi only device.


(Sent from my iPhone SE)
C



On Apr 17, 2020, at 12:52 PM, kitty hevener <kheve...@earthlink.net 
<mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>  > wrote:



For clarification, is the new SE the same size as the old one?  Has anyone 
tried trading in the old se for the new one?  Any luck?



From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fazil

Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 2:48 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning



Is SE 2 better than iPhone8 in any ways?

Thanks!



From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  > On Behalf Of 
jkt4...@gmail.com <mailto:jkt4...@gmail.com>

Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 5:40 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Ordered a new SE this morning



Good morning,



With my sighted wife’s help I ordered a new SE, black, 128 Gb, with Apple 
Care  and arranged to trade in my old iphone 8. We were online right at 7 AM 
CDT. It took us 13 minutes from start to finish which I thought was pretty 
good. I think we had to restart the process twice. It is supposed  to be 
delivered next Friday, April 24. I had to pay the full price plus tax and 
they ship me a package with labels so I can send them the iphone 8. When 
they get the 8 they will credit my account $170.00. I didn’t want to try 
to sell the old one locally.



That’s my story, hope you’re all doing well in these strange times.

Joe



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