Of course, that makes sense. Thanks. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 11:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step by step

You cannot start Voiceover with SIRI during setup because at that point SIRI is 
not setup and typically your phone does not yet have network or WiFi 
connectivity.
This is exactly why Apple has made it so easy to start Voiceover with a triple 
press of the home button.

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 7:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step by step

If VoiceOver does not come up, can't you ask Siri to launch it. 

Occasionally, my husband'swill on his tablet, and all he does is ask Siri to 
turn VoiceOver off, and she does. 

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Portia Scott
Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2020 3:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Setting up a new iPhone SE 2020 step by step

Wow, glad your setup went smoothly. Or at least pretty much smoothly, from your 
setup steps.
However, a warning for any newcommers to the iPhone SE2020.
If you start setup, turn on Voicer, it may not speak at all and you may have to 
get sighted help. Someone from the audiogames.net forum said thy had this 
issue, so just thought I'd bring it up, in case they werent on here.

Portia.

On 4/30/20, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I decided to make detailed notes of the steps involved in setting up a 
> new iPhone mainly for my own benefit since I forget what is involved 
> as I only do this every couple of years. In my case, I bought this SE
> 2020 directly from the Apple Store app with no SIM card included since 
> I have a prepaid Verizon plan and could not specify my carrier successfully 
> when ordering.
> The below numbered list will be very detailed since I'd rather have 
> too much information than not enough. Any settings provided came from 
> my iPhone 8 running iOS 13.4.1.
>
>
>
>    1.        Opened iTunes on my Windows 7 computer, verified I was running
> its latest version of 12.10.6, connected my iPhone 8 using the 
> lightning cable, and did an encrypted backup.
>
>    2.        Did an iCloud backup by going to Settings - Alan Lemly - Apple
> ID - iCloud - iTunes and App Store, iCloud, iCloud backup, and 
> executing Backup now.
>
>    3.        I read a lot of books using the BARD Mobile app and since any
> books downloaded to an iPhone are not transferred to a new restored 
> iPhone, I made a list in an Excel file of the downloaded books I 
> wanted to re-download to my new iPhone and the location of any current 
> reading position in those books.
>
>    4.        I plugged my lightning cable connected to my computer to the
> new phone and the Apple logo appeared on the screen. The white screen 
> appeared a few seconds later with the cycling languages appearing and 
> I pressed the home button 3 times quickly to turn on Voiceover.
> Although I was hearing clicks as I swiped, Voiceover did not start 
> talking until a number of seconds later. In fact, I pressed the home 
> button 3 times again because I wasn't sure I had turned Voiceover on.
> This turned Voiceover off and I had to press the home button 3 times 
> again to turn it back on and I heard Voiceover say hello and when I 
> swiped once, Voiceover said press home to open.
>
>    5.        I pressed home and Voiceover said Setup and put me in a list
> of
> language buttons with English at the top. I double tapped on English.
>
>    6.        The screen which opened said Select your country or region
> heading. I double tapped on the United States button which was the 
> first in the list.
>
>    7.        The screen which opened said Quick start heading Bring your
> current iPhone or iPad near this iPhone to sign in and set up. The 
> older iPhone must be using iOS 11 or later with Bluetooth turned on.
> There was a button at the end to Set up manually.
>
>    8.        A screen opened on my old iPhone to set up a new iPhone using
> my apple ID with a button to continue. A screen appeared to position 
> some pattern in a circle but I double tapped the Authenticate manually 
> button instead.
>
>    9.        I was prompted to input the 6 digit authentication code
> displayed on my new iPhone using the number pad screen on my old 
> iPhone. My new iPhone then prompted me to enter my passcode of my old 
> iPhone. I had to double tap each number on the on screen number pad on 
> my new iPhone since touch typing was not turned on.
>
> 10.        I was prompted to set up touch ID on the new iPhone which I did.
>
> 11.        Several screens were presented asking me to place my finger and
> lift my finger which I did. I was then taken to a screen which said 
> Adjust your grip and it said keep going to capture the edges of your 
> grip. I double tapped a Continue button at the bottom of this screen.
>
> 12.        I was then prompted to again place and lift my finger until I
> got
> the Complete message. Touch ID is ready was spoken and I then executed 
> the Continue button at the bottom of that screen.
>
> 13.        The next screen said Transfer your data heading. The explanation
> said you can directly transfer your data during setup or finish 
> downloading it later. Buttons on this screen were Transfer from 
> iPhone, Download from iCloud, or other options. The Transfer from 
> iPhone said the time to transfer was about 1 hour. The download from 
> iCloud said I could start using my iPhone in about 15 minutes and my 
> data would download later over wifi. I executed the Transfer from 
> iPhone button.
>
> 14.        I was taken to a Terms and conditions screen on the new iPhone
> where I double tapped an Agree button in the bottom right corner.
>
> 15.        I was taken to a Settings from other iPhone heading screen where
> it listed some settings about allowing Siri to use voice input, 
> contacts, etc. and allowing maps to use my location. I executed the 
> Continue button at the bottom of this screen without customizing any 
> settings.
>
> 16.        I was taken to a Keep your iPhone up to date heading screen
> which
> was basically a commercial for updating iOS automatically. At the 
> bottom of this screen was a Continue button followed by an Install 
> updates manually button. I chose the Install updates manually button.
>
> 17.        I was then taken to a screen to Add cards to Apple Pay. Instead
> of executing the Continue button, I chose to Set up later in Wallet 
> which was a button that followed the Continue button.
>
> 18.        The next screen was an Improve Siri and dictation heading. The
> choices were to Share audio recordings or Not now. I chose to Share 
> audio recordings.
>
> 19.        The next screen was App analytics heading. This is to help
> developers improve apps by sharing app activity and crash data. I 
> chose to Share this data.
>
> 20.        I then got a screen saying my other device included purchases
> from the iTunes Store that were made with a different Apple ID. I was 
> prompted to enter the password for the Apple ID mixrnb_wal...@usa.com.
> I have never purchased anything on my older iPhone other than with my 
> Apple ID so I executed the button to Skip this step. I believe I got 
> something similar when setting up my iPhone 8 from my iPhone 7 and I'm 
> perplexed where this Apple ID originated.
>
> 21.        I received an Are you sure dialog which I Skipped again.
>
> 22.        Screens on both devices now said Transferring data and to keep
> the devices connected to power. Voiceover announced the percentage 
> progress.
> After receiving the 100% progress message after about an hour, the 
> screen on my new iPhone dimmed with nothing said by Voiceover.I 
> thought I could detect the Apple logo in the center of the screen but 
> it was very dim and nothing was spoken. I decided to reset the new 
> iPhone so I pressed volume up, volume down, and held the power button 
> until the Apple logo appeared as it normally does when powering on. I 
> was then ptompted to update the phone which I assume was due to an 
> older version of iOS on it than the 13.4.1 which was running on my 
> iPhone 8. I must say that Voiceover was a bit deficient in providing 
> meaningful help with this step. But I approved the update and the 
> phone restarted and prompted me for my passcode which I provided and 
> all my apps appeared to be installed in the same location as on my 
> iPhone 8 but they were still being downloaded from the cloud. I 
> received a notification that no SIM card was present in the new phone 
> which was okay because I planned to move it over after all my apps 
> downloaded. I also noticed that my Wallet did not contain my credit 
> card so I decided to do an iTunes restore.
>
> 23.         The encrypted backup restore from iTunes went fine but I had to
> turn off Find My on my new SE before the restore would complete. The 
> SE prompted me for my passcode at least a couple of times during the 
> restore process.
>
> 24.        I had to agree to a couple of terms and conditions as my credit
> cards restored to my Wallet from the iTunes encrypted backup. This 
> also required I enter my credit card security code for it to be added 
> to the Wallet but this process went smoothly.
>
> 25.        Finally, the process of the 14 screens of apps to download from
> the cloud and the App Store is underway. This took about an hour and 
> everything is restored.
>
> 26.        I used a push pin to remove the SIM card tray from my iPhone 8
> and transferred the SIM to the iPhone SE. The SIM card has a notch in 
> the upper right corner so will only fit in the SIM tray one way. I did 
> power off both phones before transferring the SIM.
>
>
>
> I have to say I think the sound of the SE 2020 is better than my 
> iPhone 8 both from its speakers and with the wired earpods. I'm 
> looking forward to enjoying this phone and will post back if I come up 
> with anything I believe will be helpful.
>
>
>
> Alan Lemly
>
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