I just read the description for this keyboard you recommend. It sure sounds 
fancy, and I don't mean that in a derogatory sense. Might be a lot more than I 
really require or need. For instance I don't need something to hold my iPhone 
while I look at it. And that appears to be part of the frame a or design of 
this keyboard. So if for instance it says it can work with windows does that 
mean it simply operates as like a wireless keyboard to activate anything on my 
computer which is in a different corner of the room altogether? Is there 
anything else you can recommend that might  have a  simpler design and work the 
same way? a stripped-down version? I have a wireless keyboard for my PC but as 
you see, When it comes to the use of my new phone with the updated iOS, I've 
been struggling with dictation and voiceover when writing and editing in mail 
Gmail in particular and in other apps which I'm not happy about. I never had 
these problems with earlier versions of iOS and earlier models of phones. as 
you point out however, 13 has other features to offer which will serve persons 
who need them. 
Deidre Sent from my iPhone

> On May 12, 2020, at 6:21 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> The keyboard at Amazon link is:
> https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Bluetooth-Multi-Device-Keyboard-K480/dp/B00MUTWLW4/ref=sr_1_3/138-0152620-6899420?ie=UTF8&qid=1547578217&sr=8-3&keywords=logitech+k480
>  
> The carrying case is:
> https://www.amazon.com/Hermitshell-Logitech-Bluetooth-Multi-Device-Keyboard/dp/B01BXX1808?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B01BXX1808
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>  
>  
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
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