I use Contacts a lot, so got 'em on the first page. 

The funny thing was, that I had face Time off my Home Page, and after 
downloading 13.6, I just decided I'd remember my Simon lesson and go to reset 
the Home Page, and then Face Time was back up there bigger than life. So, to 
Apple I went, and now Face Book is on Page three again, where I now know how to 
see that it stays there. He told me to flick, when focus is on top, just keep 
flicking until I get back to the one I clicked on to edit. I don't think I'll 
forget that. 

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving icons.

Yeah that's the way apple have defaulted things to the home and other pages.

I have contacts on my second page  between translate and watch apps.

All you can do is go through the drag and drop process to get everything in to 
the order you require it.

As ET and others gave you the other day the instructions are correct it's just 
a case of listening to vo tell you before after or on top of.


And I have to admit I've dropped things in the wrong place a number of times 
and had to get them back to the correct place with playing.

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2020 3:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving icons.

Simon, that is getting it close, only, I've lost Contacts. I know they're in 
the Dock but they're not on my Home Screen. 

I found them on the third page. Really, I do not want Face Time at the top on 
Page two, but, at least, it's way better than it was. 

I went back to Settings and Reset, then turned my phone off - same setup. 
Thanks, you've brought me a long way, Simon. 

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 10:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving icons.

Hi Carolyn,

If you get really stuck,

You can go in to settings and then general and then restore / reset and select 
the restore home screen,

This will put everything back in an alphabetical order and not in folders.

  
The productivity folder is more likely to be that you dropped clock or 
something else on calendar making it a folder with multiple options on it.

Good luck hope you can figure it out,
Note you've got the right idea you just need to play,

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Wednesday, 22 July 2020 11:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Moving icons.

Oh my, I'm in the biggest mess now; Calendar went into a Productivity Folder. 
My husband and Apple ended up having three of them. He got them untangled, but 
now my icons are in the biggest mess. I followed the directions, but somehow, I 
really fouled up. 

Thanks. 

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2020 5:44 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Moving icons.

Hi carolyn,

Select Clock, and choose Drag. Move your finger to Calendar, since it's where 
you want Clock. then flick up or down until you get to the choice to drop Clock 
to the left of Calendar, and double-tap.

Best,
Anna


> On Jul 21, 2020, at 4:38 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> I wanted to move some icons, and had all kind of problems, even called 
> Apple Accessibility, and ended up with my husband on the phone - 
> really big mess now.
> 
> So, I carefully read some good instructions I had from Sieghard, have 
> recorded them and studied them to get very familiar with how to do it.
> 
> Now, I want to get my clock top left, but, right now, Calendar is 
> there. So, any time I try to move anything, when I get to drag, 
> regardless of what I've highlighted for editing, VoiceOver says drag 
> Calendar.
> 
> What do I do to get it to drag the icon I'm on and leave Calendar out 
> of it? I'm afraid if I just moved Calendar one over, which is what I 
> want to do, that whenever I tried to move again, it would just move 
> what would be at the top left, which probably would be maps. That 
> would be OK, but, then, I'd be back to Calendar at the top
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