I agree with Sieghard except for the point about the learning curve. I got this same advice when I was using a Nokia phone after it was clear Symbian wasn't going to be around much longer. A learning curve is a learning curve no matter when you're going to hit it. As Sieghard says there are a lot of good reasons to update, but I don't consider getting the learning curve out of the weigh sooner is one of those reasons.
-- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf > Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 10:20 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Quiet rant of the morning > > You forget that along with security fixes new updates don't only change things > and, as is true, sometimes introduce new bugs, they also introduce new > features. One I particular like in iOS 14 is the ability to give photos a > descriptive > caption. I only just upgraded so I'm sure I'll find more things I like along > with the > bugs, but just as with Windows, Jaws and any other operating system or > software, upgrading ultimately becomes inevitable and I personally prefer to > learn as I go, to potentially know about work-arounds rather than having to > make a huge jump if I'm forced to learn a new iOS which might be 2 or 3 > versions > ahead of what I had because maybe my old phone gave up the ghost or was > stolen and I had to get a new one which came with the latest version of iOS. > The same goes for Windows, on some of the lists I am on there seriously are > people who just upgraded from Windows XP to Windows 10 because their 15- > year old computer finally quit and now they are entirely helpless and face a > much larger learning curve than if they had already switched to Windows 7 and > to Windows 10 earlier. It's of course everybody's choice, but to rant about a > few > new bugs in a new iOS release does not add to the solution, upgrading and > reporting said bugs does that. And yes, I know also that many say they have > done so many times and why if bugs were reported throughout the beta cycle > are they still there in the public release, I don't know the answer to that > and it's > frustrating, but maybe it's simply because Apple software engineers didn't get > around to fixing them yet by the time the release date came and it's of course > just as useless to say that then the release date should have been postponed, > such dates are set well in advance and they are the reason why updates come > out throughout the year, there never will be a software release without bugs. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf > Of deidre muccio > Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 5:43 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Quiet rant of the morning > > Hello all, > I’m never one eager to update. I know that some here feel that the security > patches are very important and so they always make sure that they update. > However these little bugs that people continue to report, and the things that > never get repaired, that were not broken before, totally cause me to be > discouraged about where the heads are at around the programmers and the > beta testers that do this work on all our behalf. Minor structural changes > happen > over the years, Things like they give the tabs different names, and then they > put > the positioning of things such as delete versus remove in different places or > substitute them, or cause you to have to use different gestures to remove a > particular mail from a list of threaded emailsWhen it was so easy to do > before, > at least with voiceover. Who do these minor changes benefit when other things > could be corrected, such as things in the rotor… what about the inability to > select text using the line feature? for those of us using dictation, and not > always > a Bluetooth keyboard, the speech recognition capacity in my estimation has > greatly deteriorated since iOS 12. I find Siri is more and more cumbersome and > requires very specific syntax, which I’ve known all along was the case, but > siri > truly seems to have gotten less and less able to make sense out of the > simplest > requests. I find this totally baffling. And I’m not always mumbling either. > And > does it bother anyone else that if auto correct and auto predictive text > areturned off does the program still insist on putting parts of words phrases > and > pronouns in there that are absolutely never correct and require A lot of extra > time to edit them out? > There may indeed have been useful features in iOS 13, and now 14, but I was > happy with 12. From what I’ve been reading here in the last week or so, I have > no intention of updating to 14. I don’t have much patience with work arounds > that people have to do. Learning curve., I can cope with, but things that get > broken and things that do not get fixed that could save me a gesture or two > thatI’m all for, I find troublesome. > There’s more I could say about the new SE 20, but I will refrain. It’s > fortunate > that I still love having an iphone, and I use it daily, in fact I use it > every hour of > every single day just about aside from when I happen to be sleeping… So there > are still many pluses. > Deirdre > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 19, 2020, at 4:33 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> > >> > >>> > >>> While using voice-over, when I go into the Apple podcasts app and > >>> the podcast episodes in the listen now section, there seems to be no > >>> way to flick to delete that particular episode as they used to be in > >>> iOS 13. 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