I agree with CrazyEyez on this one.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 2:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are I find this to be a very dangerous post. 8 million people in the US have contracted COVID-19 and over 200,000 people have died from it. Both these numbers far exceed any number of people that have been assaulted by someone rioting. You don’t need to stop living your life, but when you did get out, for your health and the health of the people around you, please take simple and obvious precautions, e.g. socially distance, stay outside as much as possible, wear a mask, wash your hands, get a flu shot and so on. I’m not sure how useful this app would be, for the reasons as others have already posted, but the usefulness isn’t in using it when walking around to keep from bumping into people, since this isn’t how COVID-19 is most commonly spread. The usefulness is when standing or sitting with people around you. You can use this app to make sure people are standing and sitting more than six feet away from you. If someone is closer then six feet, and you’re worried about either their safety or yours, you can move to make it harder for the COVID-19 carrying droplets to span the distance. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CrazyEyez Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 7:43 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Honestly, I'm not going to walk around with my phone in my left hand and my cane in the other. How am I to carry stuff? Only way this could maybe work is if they had this in glasses, or if there was a chest rig for your phone. Also, You're more likely to get beat up by an american rioter than you are to contracting the virus by bumping into someone. Unless you kiss the hell out of them as an apology, you're fine. Continue on living your lives. Don't worry about the virus or you will die of stress before the flu can get you! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2020, at 8:34 AM, 'Kristeen Hughes' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote: These days, it's dangerous to walk into someone, even if they are attractive. They could give you the virus, or they could be afraid you would give it to them, and that could be unpleasant. I too would love to have his visor, but we may have to look at the tech that's out there for the time being. I wonder if this could help us with regard to staying distanced from people. Kristeen On Oct 31, 2020, at 3:24 AM, Simon A Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com> > wrote: I’m starting to wonder if the world is just going crazy or if it’s me losing the plot. I don’t see myself walking around with a phone in front of me so I can tell where the closest person is, If I walk in to someone, I just hope she is attractive, Smart and holds a good conversation and is not old enough to be my mother or young enough to be my daughter (if I had a kid). Otherwise People should get out of my way! From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of karuna Chopra Sent: Saturday, 31 October 2020 6:22 pm To: ViPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its practical use for us? The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of. First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the camera’s view. Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances. For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one tone if a person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that range. After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if all they care about is staying two paces away. The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual and hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster as a person gets closer. 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