You got me there. I’d call Apple Accessibility at this point. I would think dragging it out of the app library would put it on the home screen, not just a shortcut, but, like I said, I have not dealt with the app library. Best of luck,
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert Live long and prosper 🖖 Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ca7d9f9bf0b1d49f7f4e208d7a1e6e84d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637155885424004847&sdata=GAS0RAqWfHdt9hOSucJNEOC55%2BzEXVlKjLICjbY0SJE%3D&reserved=0> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike B Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 10:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones No I didn't move the app but, I had one hell of a time finding it! LOL In the App Library with the Translate app selected, I turned the rotor to Actions and now I'm able to access the drag option. If I drag the app to my Home Screen will this put the app in Settings? From what I understand that dragging the app will for lack of a better term create a shortcut on the desktop but, the Translate app will physically remain in the App Library. Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Rams! Main's Law: For every action there is an equal and opposite government program. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Turner<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 10:41 AM Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones This is very interesting and confusing. Did you move the app out of the Library? I have not tried dealing with the extra layer of the App Library. One way to do the long press in iOS 14 is a single finger triple tap… Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert Live long and prosper 🖖 Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C7e2a5af0f4fc4b66bab108d88285ccea%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637402858466557101%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=twY58XUjz0jx49%2F2MntYbebeEbRYMF%2BGpAsXYihNjGA%3D&reserved=0> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Mike B Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 10:27 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones Richard, I don't have the Translate app in Settings, only in the App Library. I believe you are supposed to invoke the long press gesture to access the actions but, apparently I'm not doing the long press correctly. What is correct way to access the actions or the correct way to do a long press gesture? Thanks much. Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Rams! Main's Law: For every action there is an equal and opposite government program. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Turner<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2020 9:42 AM Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones Make sure and go into settings, Translate, and turn off on device mode. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert Live long and prosper 🖖 Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C7e2a5af0f4fc4b66bab108d88285ccea%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637402858466567100%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=umQ4e1zyUxDXVw6tn9QW%2B02d6C29%2FARhjIma4XKkTAA%3D&reserved=0> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 9:36 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones Iwilltryagain as so far I haven’t had any luck. Alison From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: 06 November 2020 16:23 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones I just tried it by typing in a phrase. I then pressed the Go button which is where the Return button normally is on the onscreen keyboard. It showed the text translation. I then double tapped the play button and it spoke it. This is on my SE 1st generation. It works the same on my SE 2020. Something to be aware of. On my phones, the translate settings are in the main settings screen between News and Maps. If On Device Mode is on, for me, I am stuck in a loop where it wants me to download the languages, but never does. I turned On Device Mode off and it works fine. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert Live long and prosper 🖖 Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<https://eur05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C7e2a5af0f4fc4b66bab108d88285ccea%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637402858466577087%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=XzaJq%2Fh09RumALPw0w27rpd8i1Ja7T9wU7mojOae4LM%3D&reserved=0> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of CJ & AA MAY Sent: Friday, November 6, 2020 4:14 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones I have been typing the word or phrase in the edit box but a translation is neither written nor spoken. Alison From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: 06 November 2020 06:02 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones After you double tap the listen button, and finish your speaking, did you flick right twice to finish and double tap? You should hear the phrase and have it in the text field. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert On Nov 5, 2020, at 9:23 PM, Beth G <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi, I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong, but it’s not giving me a audio translation. It sounds like it is supposed to speak the translation as well as put it in text. Is that right? Thank you, Beth Sent from my iPhone On Nov 5, 2020, at 9:04 PM, Maria Campbell <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Did you update to 14.2? Maria Campbell [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. --Edmund Burke On 11/5/2020 10:09 PM, Mike B wrote: Okay, I just did a search and found it's a feature in Safari. Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Rams! Main's Law: For every action there is an equal and opposite government program. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike B To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 6:48 PM Subject: Re: new translation feature now available on iPhones Where is this feature found please? Take care and stay safe. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Go Rams! Main's Law: For every action there is an equal and opposite government program. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Turner To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2020 4:23 PM Subject: RE: new translation feature now available on iPhones I just tried it with speaking. It defaults to from English to Spanish. There is a listen button about an inch and a half up from the home button, if you have a home button. Double tap that listen button, say what you want translated, then flick twice to the right passed the close button to finished listening and double tap. Then, after a very short time, it says in Spanish what you said in English, but says it so fast even if I understood Spanish, I am not sure I could get it. But, there is a play button that shows up then that plays the Spanish at a more reasonable speed. There does not seem to be a setting for speed at all. 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