Thanks.
Having no vision, I’ll wait for the update.
Thanks so much.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Yuma 
Decaux
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 10:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Astreos

Hi Richard,

thanks for pointing this out. For some reason some of the accessibility traits 
have been changed with the new xcode. I will look into that.

In the meantime, you can toggle voice over off to do the usual zooming, pulling 
details up etc.

The update once uploaded should notify you when it arrives.

Yuma



On 15 Dec 2020, at 12:19 am, Richard Turner 
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

It tells you all about the solar system, planets, stars, etc., as you point 
your camera in different directions.
Yuma is a blind developer I believe from Australia who is finishing his 
University degree.

This is his latest beta.
I had used the previous beta and it showed great promise.

However, I just sent him some feedback because I cannot get beyond the opening 
screen today.

If you have any interest in astronomy, you may want to check it out.



Richard
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 On Behalf Of Cris Ali
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Astreos

What is astreos? What does it do?

Sent from my iPhone



On Dec 14, 2020, at 6:21 AM, Yuma Decaux 
<jamy...@gmail.com<mailto:jamy...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi All,

I've uploaded a version of AstreOS on test flight. Please find below the link:

https://testflight.apple.com/join/ZsGh6uYD<https://eur06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftestflight.apple.com%2Fjoin%2FZsGh6uYD&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ccef56a92f28941a1453908d8a0607d67%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637435683570903145%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=RRsjv%2Fng3CdjAZ4wSn3QzBa5NdFaxSuQ7rkDKMY6avE%3D&reserved=0>

A couple of notes:
1-I have started implementing the exoplanet hunting feature, when you go into 
exoplanet mode in the constellation, you will see a table of target star 
systems to explore. I am tweaking the graph sonification tool and will release 
a version with a fully functioning one as soon as I finish my final exams at 
uni.
2-The tutorial can be set back by 3 finger swiping right and toggling the 
tutorial on/off
3-I will also include a way to switch types of stars/objects you look for in 
the AR mode between major stars, near earth objects, planets and spacecraft 
orbiting the earth.
4-The planets have been scaled down to size as well as distances of moons, so 
it will be a bit harder to hit them with your finger when zoomed in on the 
planet, however scaling the moons up means that some of them might collide with 
each other, so the decision was made to keep them at scale.
5-I heard some comments about notifications, and wanted to ask you guys what 
kind of notifications you would like. I can add pretty much anything at this 
point, including when a spaceX launch occurs and follow its path as it goes up 
in the sky. For instance notifying me that a star is in the sky doesn't really 
make much sense to me as it will be approximately at the same place most of the 
time, and you can find that object through the CST system.
6-Since earpods pro have the surround system now, you can test the surround 
spatial audio in the constellations using them. I am looking into Apple's 
frameworks to see if I can create this effect better using the airpod pros, and 
the new airpod max. If you do have a 2 homepod system though, or even a 
surround system, you will be able to hear the stars around you. In the AR mode, 
you also can hear the radio chatter move as you move the phone around. I will 
need to update the code so that it also uses the head orientation given by the 
airpod max. I am saving up to get myself a pair and start testing it too.

Anyway, I would really appreciate any feature requests etc as after all, this 
app is particularly developed with the love of cool things, and I want to be 
blown away by innnovation in how I can interface with my iphone, and no man's 
an island. I also have a lot of time to spare until early march, so if anyone 
is interested in forming a what's app group chat, I will set one up.

Have a great day y'all

Yuma





On 13 Dec 2020, at 2:01 am, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I installed Nightsky although I admit I did it primarily for the notifications 
it gives regarding sunrise/sunset, when certain stars rise and so on. However, 
if I open the app and point the phone at various points in the sky Voiceove 
ralso speaks the name of whatever star or constellation in that direction.

From: 
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 On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 7:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Astreos

Astreos is an app to help blind people understand the layout of the stars, 
planets, etc.
If you have an interest in astronomy, you might also want to check out Skyview 
while Yuma gets Astreos to the point of releasing it again.



Richard
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Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 4:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Astreos

OK you guys have peaked my curiosity.
Can you tell me a little bit more about what this is all about? New game on the 
horizon? Sounds cool! Let me know as I am always willing to beta test programs. 
Thanks much!


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From: 
viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 on behalf of Larry Wayland 
<lhwayl...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:lhwayl...@sbcglobal.net>>
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 10:44:10 PM
To: 
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Subject: RE: Astreos

Yes, I would very much like to have the link.


-----Original Message-----
From: 
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 On Behalf Of Yuma Decaux
Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 6:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Astreos

Hi Everyone,

AstreOS is going through an overhaul, as we are adding some AI features and 
sonification tools to analyse the objects in the skies.

the original project was simply to make things accessible in the augmented 
reality sense, but between adding the entire universe, uni, a ted talk, the 
Holman prize, covid and others, I don't have the deep pockets that some other 
companies have, so I am working on the new features with another developer who 
is supporting the code for the backend.

I will put the new version up tomorrow and link the public test flight through 
this thread if anyone is interested.

Have a great sunday

Yuma


> On 6 Dec 2020, at 3:50 am, Richard Turner 
> <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>
> I just tried it again by pointing the camera at the sky and it is amazingly 
> nice with VoiceOver.
> Then, I discovered, it works indoors, even though the camera is only showing 
> stuff in the house, it is reporting the stars etc., you would be pointing at 
> if you were outside I guess.
> I saw until I was 12 and we spent lots and lots of time in the outdoors, 
> camping in the Sierra mountains, or on the beach around Big Sur,  and did 
> lots of star gazing at night, so I have always had a fascination with that 
> kind of information.
> Later,
>
>
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
> viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, December 5, 2020 9:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Astreos
>
> I have no vision, but my wife is sighted.
> I took a quick browse through some information and it read quite well with 
> VoiceOver though in some of the planet descriptions it was reading the code 
> rather than some punctuation.  When I can have my wife looking at it, I'll 
> track down exactly what those are.
>
> I'm hoping it will help my wife find the spot in the sky where Jupiter and 
> Saturn are going to be aligned on December 21st.  The first time in 800 years.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Richard
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> flying.
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> Will be curious to see how you get along with SkyView lite. I’m a high 
> partial but noted everything was reading and tracking with voiceover. But if 
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>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 7:10 AM, Richard Turner 
>> <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>>
>> 'I noticed that too. And I had received an email from Catherine from that 
>> project in August announcing that they were switching to the public 
>> Testflight link instead of the private test link, then it was removed.I just 
>> checked out Skyview Light and now wonder if you are right that its 
>> accessibility is vastly improved, so Astreos is maybe no more.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2020, at 3:13 AM, Pete Nalda 
>>> <lpna...@gmail.com<mailto:lpna...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Noticed that Astreos is no longer available on test flight. Is it because 
>>> that accessibility has been improved in Skyview lite?
>>>
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