Hi everyone, I hope you all have a merry Christmas. So I used this app to read some mail. I also used the Seeing a i app. Now when I say I read mail, I usually just read the envelopes. The seeing a I app is the one I got better results from. I am going to try reading barcodes with both apps as well. I will let you all know what I find out. I did actually open one piece of mail and again reading the document I got better results with the seeing a i app. I know that the developers for these apps are on the email list so I want to let you guys know that I am not at all, saying anything bad about any app. I am just giving my opinion on my comparisons. I hope you don’t take what I am saying in a bad way.
Thank you so much for developing these apps. Lelia Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 23, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote: > > Cannot find it here in the UK, is it a better scanner? Is it worth having > both in your opinion? > > Malcolm Parfitt > >>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 17:00, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> >>> wrote: >>> >> I got it from Amazon, which is his main seller. Try searching for it as >> one word on Amazon UK and see if it shows up. There is also a video on >> youtube explaining to someone who is blind how to set it up. If I can find >> that video I'll send a link. >> >> Richard >> >> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a >> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation >> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me >> when I was young." >> "Why, what did she tell you?" >> "I don't know, I didn't listen." >> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy >> >>> On Dec 23, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I’ll try and dig out a ruler and have a play. >>> >>> Incidentally where can you buy the Scanner bin from? I’m in the UK any >>> information welcome. >>> >>> Thanks Richard for all your efforts. >>> >>> Malcolm Parfitt >>> >>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:48, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, Supersense just does its thing when it thinks it is time which is >>>> usually correct, though sometimes jumps the gun, or takes a little longer, >>>> see below. >>>> >>>> Seeing AI will say hold steady as soon as I put it on the Scanner bin with >>>> a document in the bottom. >>>> Try setting your FOPYDO at 11.5 inches above the document if you happen to >>>> have a tactile ruler handy and see if that works. >>>> That is the height of the scanner bin according to my 54 year old braille >>>> tactile ruler. >>>> >>>> Now, I opened Supersense and put it in document mode with the same >>>> document in the Scanner bin. It said move farther away from the document >>>> twice before it went ahead and took the picture. >>>> >>>> Both had 100% accuracy with the Scanner bin Packing list which is what I >>>> was using. >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard, in the U.S. >>>> >>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a >>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation >>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me >>>> when I was young." >>>> "Why, what did she tell you?" >>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen." >>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy >>>> >>>> I’m not the card shark >>>> My web site, www.turner42.com >>>> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>>> Malcolm Parfitt >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:32 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions. >>>> >>>> You’re quite right Richard, that’s what I normally do but I was trying to >>>> get it to automatically take a picture like Voice Dream and Supersense >>>> does. Incidentally in document mode Supersense does not have a take >>>> picture button as far as I can tell, it relies on its detection of the >>>> page. >>>> >>>> Malcolm Parfitt >>>> >>>> >>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:25, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> You need to just ignore that message and activate the take picture button. >>>> I think I sent that feedback to Microsoft before, but we both should tell >>>> them again. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard, in the U.S. >>>> >>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a >>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation >>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me >>>> when I was young." >>>> "Why, what did she tell you?" >>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen." >>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy >>>> >>>> I’m not the card shark >>>> My web site, www.turner42.com >>>> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>>> malc...@parfitt1.org.uk >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:41 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: RE: Supersense first impressions. >>>> >>>> Hello Richard, >>>> >>>> I did update Seeing AI this morning and it was the update I used. >>>> >>>> Strangely enough when I use the stand with Seeing AI it always tells me >>>> that not all edges are visible. I’ve tried adjusting the hight of the >>>> stand but never got it to work. >>>> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>>> Richard Turner >>>> Sent: 23 December 2020 14:19 >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions. >>>> >>>> Malcolm, >>>> Have you tried the Seeing AI after yesterday's update? >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a >>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation >>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me >>>> when I was young." >>>> "Why, what did she tell you?" >>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen." >>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 23, 2020, at 4:33 AM, malc...@parfitt1.org.uk wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I have just been trying Supersense with my iPhone XR running the latest >>>> release of IOS. >>>> >>>> Using the app free hand I was able to obtain excellent results on a single >>>> page document I had printed with my HP laser printer. OCR was accurate >>>> and having followed thee instructions on document placement none of the >>>> text on the page was clipped. >>>> The only apps to come near to Supersense that I tried freehand were Prizmo >>>> Go and Voice Dream Scanner. >>>> >>>> Next I used the same document with my iPhone using a Fopydo document >>>> stand. Having setup the stand and placed my iPhone on the document shelf >>>> I used a Bluetooth keyboard to control the iPhone, so as not to disturb it >>>> or the document. >>>> >>>> Using Supersense’s Smart Scanning option it detected I was scanning a >>>> document and captured the page. Once again it gave an accurate OCR of the >>>> document with no text clipped. >>>> >>>> Voice Dream performed in a similar manner but there were a couple of >>>> errors and some text was clipped. >>>> >>>> Prizmo Go too clipped some text. >>>> >>>> I tried Seeing AI, KNFB Reader, Envision AI, Prizmo and Prizmo Go. >>>> >>>> Out of thee apps Supersense did the best job on the document I used. >>>> >>>> This is by no means a scientific result and your findings may differ from >>>> mine. This is just my initial finding. >>>> >>>> I shall experiment further with other features of Supersense and compare >>>> them with other apps where appropriate. >>>> >>>> Malcolm >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>> list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>>> mk...@ucla.edu. 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