can someone please explain what screen recognition or voiceover recognition is and how it is supposed to be useful? I must’ve missed an earlier explanation of this.
Thank you. Keith > On Dec 23, 2020, at 10:05 AM, davycupp...@gmail.com wrote: > > Screen recognition is almost useless nowadays, Apple has to do a lot of work > on it. > > For 90% of the times it makes apps and even the ios useless. I am convinced > about the good intentions they're having with the feature but it is in a very > very beginners stage. > And I am sure that now there will be apps that include more recognition when > one test them out with the feature enabled but all of the somewhat > inaccessible apps on my phone get completely useless wen embedding this > feature. > Davy > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> Namens Richard Turner > Verzonden: woensdag 23 december 2020 16:50 > Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com > Onderwerp: RE: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled > > Malcolm is correct. > I just retested with screen recognition on and nothing other than the menu > button speaks correctly. > Here's hoping this is resolved in 14.4 when it comes out. > > > > Richard, in the U.S. > > "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a > Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in > deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I > was young." > "Why, what did she tell you?" > "I don't know, I didn't listen." > -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy > > • I’m not the card shark > • My web site, www.turner42.com > • > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Malcolm Parfitt > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:43 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled > > Supersense is unusable with Screen Recognition on using my iPhone XR. > > All I get is the Menu button spoken then just Button as I swipe Around the > screen. > > So if anyone has problems with Supersense I would suggest you try turning off > Screen Recognition and see if your problems are solved. > > Malcolm Parfitt > >> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:35, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Shane, >> Donna is talking about the new "feature" in iOS 14 for image and screen >> recognition, which is available on newer devices. >> It is called VoiceOver Recognition in the VoiceOver settings and has a few >> options you can turn on and then if it is on the rotor, you can turn it on >> or off for different apps. >> I've tried Supersense with and without them on and it seems to work fine >> either way. >> >> Dan's issue though I cannot test as I probably said yes to its asking about >> Bluetooth devices in case I was going to use Bluetooth earphones or another >> device down the road. >> If saying no to this option actually cripples Supersense and Bluetooth, that >> is a problem. >> >> I'd be surprised if it is, but if you can start fresh and install it and say >> no to its wanting access to Bluetooth devices, you can see if that is a >> universal problem. >> >> >> >> Richard, in the U.S. >> >> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a >> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation >> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me >> when I was young." >> "Why, what did she tell you?" >> "I don't know, I didn't listen." >> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy >> >> • I’m not the card shark >> • My web site, >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu >> rner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C8e5560701ebc4c7acffc08d8a7597a99%7 >> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637443350039915494%7CUnkno >> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL >> CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=tZvKVtLOVZ0ZQowqybdBkxuI6QPtrxRzsYRjwU3 >> Wg3I%3D&reserved=0 >> • >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >> Shane Lowe >> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:17 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Supersense won't work with no bluetooth enabled >> >> Donna, thanks for a solution to this! >> I am unfamiliar with this issue, could you please give me more details so I >> can better help anyone in the future who reports it? >> >> >>>> On 12/23/20, Donna Casteen <mermaid71...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Turn the rotor to screen recognition & flick to turn off. Do the same >>> for image description. Always check these 2 settings when installing a new >>> app. >>> The settings are on by default. >>> >>> Donna >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I put it on my SE 2020 and started it. It of course came up with >>>> the setup settings. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It asked for access to bluetooth and I told it no. 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