I've never tried it but that's how I would expect it to work,

The microphone recording you is the concern to me,
I'm not sure how that will work,
But the video / voiceover recording from the screen / device would be the key 
thing if the recording is picked up well.

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone <[email protected]> 
Sent: Friday, 25 December 2020 1:42 am
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Screen shots and providing evidence of inaccessability to software 
developers?

Hi Richard,

Just to be clear, are you saying that screen recording will record the image of 
the screen as seen by a sighted person along with voiceover output and my 
commentary if I enable the mic?


The app is fairly large and complex with multiple levels and options within 
each screen. If screen recording works as above then I may as well point out 
all the other inaccessable features which I haven'nt bothered with in the app 
before because I thought it would be too complicated to explain to the 
developer.


thanks

Gary

xOn 23/12/2020 23:23, Richard Turner wrote:
> Be sure you do not have the screen curtain on.
>
> Richard
>
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
>> On Dec 23, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, put Screen Recording in the Control Center in Settings, if it is not 
>> already there.
>> Bring up the Control Center and find Screen recording and flick up with one 
>> finger to more and double tap.
>> This is if you want to also record with the microphone maybe your commentary 
>> of what is different?
>> Anyway, if you flick right to use Microphone and double tap then flick back 
>> left to start recording you will not only get VoiceOver speech, but you can 
>> also record your comments.
>> Of course, once you start the recording you will want to go back to your app 
>> so there will be some excess stuff in the recording.
>> Once you are done, there will be an icon in the upper left to get back to 
>> the screen recording where you can stop it.
>> Screen recordings show up in photos as a video.
>> You should  then be able to share that with the developers.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>>
>> Richard, in the U.S.
>>
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 3:10 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Screen shots and providing evidence of inaccessability to software 
>> developers?
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> An app I use to control my music server has over the last year become 
>> increasingly inaccessable.  For example the labels associated with buttons 
>> seem to have collapsed to a single letter (and not necessarily the first 
>> letter of the word label).
>>
>> Am I correct in thinking that if I take a screen shot it will only show 
>> exactly what a sighted person would see and not what Voiceover is speaking?
>>
>> If so does anyone know a way of taking a screen shot or something which will 
>> enable a software developer to "see" what Voiceover is seeing/producing to 
>> the blind user.
>>
>> Is there perhaps some diagnostic tool that could be used to get a dump of 
>> voiceovers speech buffer?
>>
>> Whilst I  could or may have to, write down each issue and explain in detail 
>> to the software developer what is happening a dump of Voiceovers output 
>> would be a far more elegant and direct diagnostic tool.
>>
>> Thanks in anticipation
>>
>>
>> Gary
>>
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