I’m glad I was able to help. It is a confusing aspect of this new update. I know Apple was trying to help and I guess it does now in 14.4 but I wish they had just forced developers to make their apps accessible to begin with. O well. Whenever I said “I wish” my Father used to say “wish in one hand and s**t in the other, then see which one you get first.” Crude, but I didn’t say I wish much around him after that, grin.
Richard Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry. My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Paul JOrdan Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 12:09 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem I got it figured out. I didn’t realize I had to activate direct touch from the rotor itself once I selected it under rotor actions. When I went out of rotor actions and into the app, I turned the rotor and flicked. Now it’s working as expected. Thanks for all your help and patience. God bless! Paula and the pups From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 2:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem I am using an SE 2020. I'm going to try to answer two questions here. First, if Direct Touch is not under Rotor Actions, either you are not on 14.4, or you removed it from the Rotor and need to add it back under the rotor settings. As for using it with mBraille, make sure in that Rotor Actions, direct touch, that when you touch an app, it says selected. If you double tap it, it will stop saying selected. But, to work, it has to say selected. The first time, you may have to turn the rotor to Direct touch and turn it on, but after that it will just work. Or at least, it does for me. I'm using mBraille to reply to this message and while it says direct touch when I start, it just works, without any monkeying around with the rotor. HTH, Richard "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy On Jan 31, 2021, at 10:45 AM, Paul JOrdan <pau...@roadrunner.com<mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com>> wrote: Well, obviously, I’m doing something wrong. I go into voice over, rotor actions, direct touch, and select blindfold solitaire and MBRL. Leave settings and try to use either app with no success. Still see “direct touch” prompt and can’t activate the keyboard or the cards. When I check back the two apps do not show as selected. I have re-started the phone and that doesn’t seem to make a difference. What am I missing? Thanks, as always. God bless! Paula and the pups From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 10:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem OK. RS Games is self-voicing. So, go to settings, Rotor Actions, Direct Touch Apps. Any app listed there that says “selected” should mean that you can use it without having to mess with Direct Touch on the rotor. Go through all the apps in there and make sure RS Games is selected. Then, even though it says “direct Touch” VoiceOver will work. I just tried that and it works fine. The other option is to turn off VoiceOver to play. Or, put Direct Touch back on the rotor and turn to it each time and flick up to ON in order to play. Richard Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry. My web site, www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51e6931df89b4c2abb2208d8c6248495%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637477207432490341%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=zH85PA%2Btygf4E8E7PEFFNr9tssQ8ZhcUKC9PmgOY54E%3D&reserved=0> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 6:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Sorry, more about the direct touch problem The Direct Touch is in an app called RS Games. Thanks. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Jan 31, 2021, at 9:32 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: You cannot get rid of it. But, it should not stop you from using an app. Perhaps you could say where it is causing you problems? Richard "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy On Jan 31, 2021, at 6:29 AM, Esther <elevegn...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote: Hi, Well, I deleted the Direct Touch thing from my rotor, but it still didn't go away. I'm going to power off the phone and see if that does make the draft go away. Anyway, I appreciate all your help. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Jan 30, 2021, at 5:21 PM, regina alvarado <reggie.alvar...@gmail.com<mailto:reggie.alvar...@gmail.com>> wrote: Go to settings, accessibility, voice over, double tap, go to rotor actions, double tap, go to direct touch, double tap and in there you will find each app. You can select what apps you want to. It will still say direct touch when going into the apps you choose, but you don't have to find direct touch and flick up to turn it on any longer. Hope this helps. Reggie Alvarado On Jan 30, 2021, at 4:45 PM, Paul JOrdan <pau...@roadrunner.com<mailto:pau...@roadrunner.com>> wrote: Hi all. I know this was discussed shortly after 14.4 was released. I just upgraded my IPHONE 7 and I’m still seeing the “direct touch” issue and can’t find out how to get rid of it. I thought I saved that email, but apparently I didn’t or the comsuter ate it! I haven’t tried using MBRL since I updated, but have played the blindfold games and still have to turn off voice over to get away from direct touch. I’d appreciate any help you could give this old brain. Thanks in advance. God bless! Paula and the pups -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51e6931df89b4c2abb2208d8c6248495%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637477207432500338%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2Ba02ZIvFq1UXOSYZDPUKmgMaUlp03t2I04%2FxsvGp5BY%3D&reserved=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/003a01d6f751%2431979e40%2494c6dac0%24%40roadrunner.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F003a01d6f751%252431979e40%252494c6dac0%2524%2540roadrunner.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51e6931df89b4c2abb2208d8c6248495%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637477207432500338%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=PKuvig6Us7hNYiT0TeJMXrIgWDKZRO7p5kz%2B3InuGBY%3D&reserved=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51e6931df89b4c2abb2208d8c6248495%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637477207432510332%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=l13A2lMMUWXvvBcpcOeoIwWoRpbBlmqCTkGymxYdp9c%3D&reserved=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/627443C1-8C26-4D43-8EF2-3194CE73D25A%40gmail.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F627443C1-8C26-4D43-8EF2-3194CE73D25A%2540gmail.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51e6931df89b4c2abb2208d8c6248495%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637477207432520328%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=HRkQbFoJd8NxvOzCykFKUA1QWeApdZKl6ui3f1ha3jU%3D&reserved=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51e6931df89b4c2abb2208d8c6248495%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637477207432530323%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=V7VaDnGF2T%2Bw77GFHO6DvyBPIxTxjT7JgKcfTiVofHU%3D&reserved=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/E6B2DC22-180E-4936-87A1-48014E086BB8%40sbcglobal.net<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FE6B2DC22-180E-4936-87A1-48014E086BB8%2540sbcglobal.net%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51e6931df89b4c2abb2208d8c6248495%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637477207432530323%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=sfzNBEf9ddwxSl9CeMOAvXs%2B5AsrA%2Bsc%2BkJEv87ZAwQ%3D&reserved=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51e6931df89b4c2abb2208d8c6248495%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637477207432540320%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=C82rnBIzuVBUDKSUzMPt4znuueuzA5K0L3rHd3RNXTI%3D&reserved=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR17MB1981B8B70D45F352D0C1D3C2B7B79%40MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FMWHPR17MB1981B8B70D45F352D0C1D3C2B7B79%2540MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51e6931df89b4c2abb2208d8c6248495%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637477207432550315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=D3%2FB3nzR9xlIpjdRYgnp6wiWOe6SgmjSYbCA%2FsUhNSA%3D&reserved=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51e6931df89b4c2abb2208d8c6248495%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637477207432550315%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=KKCyw9xRHRW8tm3s1tVjc8icAPNf2oKe3Uu%2BembNrXs%3D&reserved=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/E39167BA-CBA6-4A1B-A97C-8AC59ADEEE34%40sbcglobal.net<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FE39167BA-CBA6-4A1B-A97C-8AC59ADEEE34%2540sbcglobal.net%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51e6931df89b4c2abb2208d8c6248495%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637477207432560311%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=TVH956twtu83reOmmx0iEoDhTQjuSZrUT9dshtdaPw0%3D&reserved=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51e6931df89b4c2abb2208d8c6248495%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637477207432570307%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=hHHVJOODuYnWa9Tw71fYRywi9d2TpvHzhRsjJFye2cU%3D&reserved=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR17MB19815AFD4C3A0ED9789037E0B7B79%40MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FMWHPR17MB19815AFD4C3A0ED9789037E0B7B79%2540MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51e6931df89b4c2abb2208d8c6248495%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637477207432580302%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=FXM3unYTJnd9iH7GOM9mhAvFcopOdmYxC%2F64XZNthLs%3D&reserved=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51e6931df89b4c2abb2208d8c6248495%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637477207432580302%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ib8BXkO9CaUJ%2FSmQR9vPjm4wcjNue2g1MYVlWslScO0%3D&reserved=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01de01d6f800%24d2fef120%2478fcd360%24%40roadrunner.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F01de01d6f800%2524d2fef120%252478fcd360%2524%2540roadrunner.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51e6931df89b4c2abb2208d8c6248495%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637477207432590298%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=lQnRzB5efiWWIPa4mN5R0UQ0SP4AMv7nXaS%2B4kdMYyc%3D&reserved=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51e6931df89b4c2abb2208d8c6248495%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637477207432600295%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ol7Xt7pN7rdAuyABAKkcXJ06SXCH0qAq%2Bskufl9tT6M%3D&reserved=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR17MB19814BAF3C788AE32A556B73B7B79%40MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FMWHPR17MB19814BAF3C788AE32A556B73B7B79%2540MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51e6931df89b4c2abb2208d8c6248495%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637477207432600295%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Xq3cRBG7wZLoZX2Hbf5CrCuw9jHC5BL6i7eYuiSA9bo%3D&reserved=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51e6931df89b4c2abb2208d8c6248495%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637477207432610292%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=MruqO50cwP%2BMnarrysOCWxpWxOffYuU6J2NiYHr8Jxo%3D&reserved=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/021901d6f80c%24f3509990%24d9f1ccb0%24%40roadrunner.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F021901d6f80c%2524f3509990%2524d9f1ccb0%2524%2540roadrunner.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=04%7C01%7C%7C51e6931df89b4c2abb2208d8c6248495%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637477207432620288%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=bZyOS8CaLgZpiIiBCRaVsVrZmtJQsRSfrsv4u2rYax0%3D&reserved=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR17MB1981B2E5E7741D88300DE09EB7B79%40MWHPR17MB1981.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.
