You are not alone.
I wish they never removed the speech for the subtle tones.

Later,


Richard
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 8:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Typing echo on a bluetooth keyboard?

Hi Richard,

Thanks for the headsup.  I had my head up ... further than usual and totally 
messed up how quick nav works, got it backwards!


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
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From: Richard Turner<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 7:42 PM
Subject: RE: Typing echo on a bluetooth keyboard?

Actually Mike,
QuickNav is off when you are entering text, but note that in the VoiceOver 
Typing Feedback settings there are separate settings for software and hardware 
keyboards.
Make sure the Hardware keyboard is set the way you want it.

QuickNav is short for Quick Navigation.  That has to be on when you are trying 
to navigate.  Like using control+up arrow to jump to the top left of the screen.
But when you go into a text field and want to type if QuickNav is on, VoiceOver 
will try to interpret your keystrokes as navigation commands.
Since Apple stopped having VoiceOver speak "QuickNav On or QuickNav off" you 
only have the rising and lowering tones, which are not so distinct as the 
speech would be.

HTH,


Richard
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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 5:18 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Typing echo on a bluetooth keyboard?

Hi Ann,

I've never been able to type with my K-380 unless quick nav was turned on.  You 
turn it on by pressing both the, left & right arrow keys, simultaneously.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ann Byrne<mailto:[email protected]>
To: viPhone list<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 5:02 PM
Subject: Typing echo on a bluetooth keyboard?

I have typing echo set to characters on both the phone and external
keyboards.  When I touch type on the phone, characters are spoken as
I type them; when i use the k480, however, quicknav turned off, the
keyboard just goes clunk and doesn't repeat the characters.  When I
check, they are there; but the phone won't repeat them as I move over
them, so if I need to correct something I have to clear the text and
retype it.  am I missing a setting somewhere, or is this a new
undocumented feature???

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